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Australian 9/11 truth movement statement | 11 September 2010

13 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsz_Mjjrxcw

On 11 September 11, 2010 The Sydney 9/11 truth movement gathered outside the ANZAC War Memorial in Sydney's Hyde Park.

A statement was read by David Andresen, BSc(ENG) civil
Civil Engineering UNSW Australia
Sydney, NSW -- Australia
signatory, http://www.ae911truth.org petition

For more information please visit www.911oz.com.

1,270 Architects/Engineers Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at World Trade Center on 9/1

10 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

Yahoo News | 7 September 2010

Former US Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) and Richard Gage, AIA, Founder of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth Discuss Scientific Findings

National Press Club, Washington DC, 2:00 pm, Thursday, September 9, 2010

WASHINGTON, Sept. 7 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- On Thursday September 9, 2010, Gravel and Gage will host a central press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, DC, presenting hard evidence that all three WTC skyscrapers on September 11, 2001, in NYC were destroyed by explosive controlled demolition.

Senator Gravel notes, "Critically important evidence has come forward after the original government building reports were completed."

This press conference will be webcast at AE911Truth.org and hosted concurrently in cities throughout the world.*  Following the conference, there will be a mock debate during which public statements made by government investigators and other defenders of the official account will be presented and responded to in multimedia format.  "They refuse to debate us in person," says Gage, "so we will let their public statements represent them."

Gage will release a media-friendly summary of his organization's findings, which are based on forensic evidence as well as video and eyewitness testimony that were omitted from official reports.  He will show evidence that the WTC Twin Towers were not destroyed by jet plane impacts or fires, but by pre-set explosives and incendiaries.  The non-profit organization, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, will also call for a grand jury investigation of government report lead engineers Shyam Sunder and John Gross of the National Institute of Standards and Technology. "They were in a position to know the evidence we have been presenting," says Gage.

Also speaking will be Florida State Professor Lance deHaven-Smith, who coined the academic term State Crimes Against Democracy (SCAD).  Prof. deHaven-Smith has appeared on Good Morning America, the Today Show, NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, CBS Nightly News with Dan Rather, and other national TV/radio shows.  

The DC press conference will be accessible via webcast AE911Truth.org, 2:00 pm September 9, 2010.

* For information on satellite press conferences in your area, contact CongressionalOutreachTeam [at] ae911truth.org.

To arrange print/broadcast interviews, with Richard Gage, AIA, contact Tania at 510-292-4710, or via email at 1000 [at] ae911truth.org.  

CONTACT: David Slesinger  410-499-5403

SOURCE Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Is Julian Assange now a target of the CIA psyops department?

September 8, 2010, part 1 of 1.
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09 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 3

broken condom We bring you tonight the sordid tale of Julian Assange in Sweden: a saga of  broken condoms, scorned women and character assassination, possibly directed from on high by unseen forces who are determined to destroy the whistle blowing organisation he founded.

After studying all the known facts it seems clear that Mr. Assange is definitely the victim in this sad affair, yet the media (including the "high-brow" broadsheets) continue to publish stories about Assange which prominently feature  the word "rape", while dredging up trivial gossip about his sex life.
'An allegation has been reported all around the world', Assange says of the continuing Swedish legal circus. 'It's at present on six million websites. In fact one in twenty websites mentioning the word rape also mentioned my name.'
- http://rixstep.com/1/20100908,01.shtml

This remains the case even though the leaked "rape" charge was almost immediately withdrawn, and no formal charges have been laid, and despite the disingenuous attempts of crooked journalists to dispel valid and justified suspicion that this is all a product of the CIA dirty tricks department.


The propensity of the global mainstream media to act in lock-step to publish baseless slander is something which must be confronted and exposed.  It is tangible proof that there is a conspiracy of the powerful running things, shaping opinion and subverting democracy and the rule of law.


We look forward to your comments and thank you for listening (:


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9/11 Anniversary Protest at the War Memorial

06 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

When: Saturday 11 September 2010 | 11:00 AM

Where: War Memorial, Hyde Park, Sydney

RSVP: click here

ANZAC War Memorial

Hi Folks,

Please join us next Saturday in protest and solidarity with the victims of 9/11.

They are the voiceless, thrown into the dustbin of history for the "greater good": 3,000 in New York, a million in Iraq, and an unknown number still to come in Afghanistan and other battlefields yet to be announced.

Ultimately they are you and me, because 9/11 was the starters' gun for an endless war against an enemy which does not exist, and which will potentially target anybody who stands in it's way. It is a deranged, psychopathic attempt on the part of a degenerate elite to create "Chaos" as a stepping stone to a new "Order", one which they are willing to kill millions to attain.

You know it, and I know it, but we absolutely have to make the effort to communicate this and try to stop it, or as Niels Harrit said, "live in shame".

Please bring banners, DVDs and flyers and please be pro-active.

I don't have time to coordinate details - so trust your own judgement and bring materials which you think are relevant.

Any questions please call me on 0415 059675.

Best regards,
Hereward Fenton

Angry in America: Inside Alex Jones’ World

05 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/alex-jones..radio-host/story?id=10891854

Radio Host and 'Conspiracy Theorist' Taps into Dark National Mood to Build Media Empire

Dan Harris | 2 Sep 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIF1d_cxJvk

To Alex Jones, the world is a very dark place.

"Good old Uncle Sam will stage attacks ... that's how they keep the slaves in line," the libertarian radio host says during a rant on his show. "We have to wake up and face the fact that we have a criminal government."

Jones, who sits at the helm of an independent media empire, is arguably the nation's premiere purveyor of what could be called paranoia porn.

"World government means world tyranny run by a scientific dictatorship of control freaks that want to carry out forced population reduction," he explained.

The criminal government is just one of many conspiracy theories Jones espouses -- although he thinks that term belittles his reporting. He also believes that the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center were an inside job, that President Barack Obama is an "unconstitutional criminal" and that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) runs concentration camps.

"They [FEMA] have designation sports stadiums," he said matter-of-factly, "They have designated fields, they have designated closed down prisoner of war camps for the American people during a civil uprising."

You can count on Jones to push the envelope. Take his stance on the government poisoning the water. "I have all the other government documents where the government proposes -- or government think tanks propose -- poisoning the water to dumb down the population to make them more easy to manage," Jones said.

People who monitor hate groups say they're extremely worried about Jones' growing influence. His six-day-a-week radio show and webcast reach an estimated one million people a day. On YouTube and elsewhere, Jones estimates 200 million people have seen his various documentaries, like "The Fall of the Republic," "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement" and "The Obama Deception."

Critics Say Jones Incites Anger

In 2002, Richard McAslin, allegedly a Jones listener, snuck into a men's club in California that Jones has called, "a haven for the global elite," carrying a rifle, a handgun, a cross-bow and a sword. Last summer, another Jones fan -- a mother of three on Long Island, N.Y., named Nancy Genovese -- was arrested for allegedly taking pictures of an Air National Guard base with firearms in her car. The charges were later dropped.

Jones' critics say that by floating his highly-charged ideas at a time when the nation is already very angry and anxious, he's upping the odds for unbalanced people to do stupid things.

"I've got to report the information I see and what I believe is happening," he said. "I have a responsibility to put out."

When asked if he's worried about possibly-deranged people who listen to his show taking violent action, he went on the defensive.

"I knew when you guys called that this would be the crux of your interview and that's fine because the government is going to stage more terror attacks like it did in 1995, like it did in 2001 and try to blame it on the American people," he said.

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New 9/11 video shows the WTC south tower exploding

03 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE7fWV2qUVU

This newly released video is a longer version of a well known newscast clip which shows a very relaxed scene only moments before the catastrophic collapse of the south tower. This clip proves that there were no warning signs before the tower collapsed and should put to rest claims that the collapse was in any way expected.

Another crucial fact we can deduce from the video is that there was a massive explosion before the tower started to collapse. Remember, light travels way faster that sound, yet the rumbling we hear actually precedes the collapse, meaning that there was a highly energetic event taking place before any external visual signs.

In short, this video shows that the south tower was blown up - there is no other way of describing it.

Indeed, the words "a huge explosion now raining debris on all of us..." are the last thing we hear from the presenter before he turns tail and runs.

Sept. 11 attacks did NOT elicit terror, but anger

03 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

http://www.psychologytoday.com/.../sept-11-attacks-did-not-elicit-terror-anger

Douglas Kenrick | 31 August 2010

What was the emotional timeline of September 11, 2010?  A fascinating study of this topic was released yesterday in Psychological Science, authored by Mitja Back, Albrecht Kupfer, and Boris Egloff of Johannes Gutenberg University.  The authors analyzed 6.4 million words from messages sent on 85,000 different pagers on September 11.  The messages are anonymous and apparently available publicly on the internet. They sorted the messages into 5-min blocks, according to the time they were sent, and analyzed 216 time blocks.  They started with messages sent at 6:45 a.m. (2 hours before the first attack) and analyzed those through the 18 hours after the attack.   Using software developed by Jamie Pennebaker and his colleagues, the authors counted the percentage of words in each block related to (a) sadness (crying, grief), (b) anxiety (worried, fearful), and (c) anger (hate, annoyed).

Here’s a graph of their results. 

There’s something quite interesting about those results.  You’d expect an act of “terror” to elicit mostly feelings of anxiety and fear, yet as the day wore on, and the news sunk in, the reaction was primarily anger, and although people’s anxiety didn’t increase, their anger did. 

We don’t want to conclude that terror isn’t part of the reaction to acts of terrorism.  The authors cite other research suggesting that the attacks on September 11th did certainly elicit lots of stress.  But the anger reaction tells us another, and perhaps more important, part of the story. This finding is consistent with decades of research on conflict and aggression in the laboratory: When you attack someone, it reliably elicits a counterattack.

These findings also show the folly of terrorism: The most likely reaction is a desire to counterattack.  In the case of those attacks, they have certainly cost more Arab than American lives over the long haul.

Of course, the same goes for our counterattacks, every time our bombs have killed civilians, it has triggered more outrage and anger, and continued to feed back into the cycle of violence. 

You don't need these new data to show that, but they are interesting in showing just how quick the reaction is; the bilateral support for Bush's decisions to start two wars in alleged response to those attacks, demonstrates that such wrath doesn't get replaced by a considered rational analysis too quickly. 

Reference

Back, M. D., Kufner, A. C. P., & Egloff, B. (2010).  The emotional timeline of September 11, 2001.  Psychological Science.

Pennebaker J.W., Francis M.E., Booth R.J. (2001). Linguistic Inquiry and Word Count (LIWC): LIWC 2001. Mahwah, NJ: Erlbaum

New video of WTC7 shows Michael Hess calling for help

02 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

http://www.newworldorderreport.com...Michael-Hess

1 September 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oArHZqyNewE

After the first World Trade Center tower is hit, Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Michael Hess, New York’s corporation counsel, head up to the emergency command center of the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM), which is on the 23rd floor of WTC 7.  Testimony from Barry Jennings and Michael Hess has rarely been confirmed, until now.  This video was just released via a FOIA (freedom of information act request) and New World Order Report has obtained and released it on the internet. 

Take a look for yourself.  Michael Hess, clearly visible, is stuck in the building.  This corroborates the story they told that on the way down trying to evacuate the building, an explosion occurred inside of the building which trapped them.  The stairway, where the explosion occurred, blew out the last floors in the stairwell.  Barry Jennings gave an exclusive interview with Loose Change creator Dylan Avery where Barry stated that when he was finally found by firefighters, they stepped over dead bodies in the lobby on their way out.  After the video publicly aired, Barry Jennings mysteriously died just before the BBC aired a piece about World Trade Center Building 7.

9/11 Eyewitness Testimony of Mr. David Long

01 September 2010 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

http://vimeo.com/14513454

28 August 2010

David Long, Eyewitness to the 9/11/2001 Attacks from Truth Action Ottawa on Vimeo.

On May 8, 2009, members of Truth Action Ottawa interviewed Mr. David Long, who was in downtown Manhattan the morning of September 11, 2001. Mr. Long recounts everything he saw and heard that morning, including multiple streams of molten metal pouring from the buildings before they fell, and the sounds of multiple explosions as the buildings came down.

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lol - more of fenton telling people what they should do..  i bet he still uses gmail as well..
http://www.truthnews.com.au/news/story/how_facebook_is_exterminating_communities

what a moron

By kyhgkyu on 2015 02 18 - 12:32:45
From the entry 'Why you should stop using Gmail right now'.

In your last broadcast you seemed to accept the conclusion of a few complainants that the show was suffering from a lack of money, and a lack of “good guests”, as someone has criticised you for.  My own view is that the show is getting noticeably better. You have improved enormously as a radio personality. I am now happy to listen to your own Alan Jones-style opinionation because you have a unique voice which is worth listening to. I mean not only your mind, but the “tonics” (I don’t know the correct term) of your actual voice, which has a combination of purity, precision, passion, and thoughtfulness which is unique, and certainly worth a much larger audience. I am amazed at the top guests you have attracted to your show, considering that the listeners must be very few. I could offer some criticism as well, but that isn’t the point of this message. I would stop worrying about the shoestring you have to produce your show. Look at Tom Feeley at ICH and his constant, embarrassing, failed pleas to get his much larger audience to contribute financially. This comes with the territory. You are Cinderella who has ugly sisters working at all the major media outlets in Australia. That’s the way the world works. Virtue and Truth are usually poor and persecuted. You remarked in your last broadcast that reality is reversed in today’s media, but it has been ever thus. Cinderella is just one such fairy tale on that theme. The Emperor’s Clothes is another.  The biggest tyrants crown themselves and have big castles and can give their evil a makeover with wall-to-wall art and honors. For hundreds of years they even claimed the right to de-virginate every new bride among their serfs. People bowed down to them, as they still bow down to the succession of criminals who go down in history as dignified presidents of the United States. Unfortunately, the majority of humans are constituted to look up to power and wealth. That’s why there are so many poor people who vote for political parties which serve only the interests of the very rich. These voters actually identify with the rich and powerful, and would behave similarly if they were lucky enough to be rich and powerful. You have the ultimate role model of Jesus, the divine man (according to billions) who was crucified for being the ultimate role model. You haven’t been crucified yet, Hereward, so you have nothing to complain about. You don’t seem to realise that since the end of the second world war (and starting centuries before that) the US government has been systemically engaged in a genocidal program to rid the world of anyone and everyone who thinks “left”, that is, anyone who actively believes in a civilisation where everyone has a happy place and life. I might comment in passing on your criticism of Google’s behavior. Surely you must be aware that the US Government has passed a series of laws deposing the Constitution and imposing a tyrannical state, starting with the Patriot Act after 9-11, which no congressional voter was allowed to even read (and anthrax was sent to congressional leaders that insisted on normal examination of a new bill, even if normal means just the usual Congressional pretence of examining it). By law Google (and every library in America) is not allowed to disclose that the government is snooping and taking what was once considered private information. Blame US tyrannical laws, not Google. I am surprised that Google even notified the journalists after two years. Perhaps that’s allowed by law after that period has elapsed. Advising your listeners to bail out of gmail is uninformed, useless advice. All other email communications, indeed all other forms of communication, are spied on and collected for storage. There is no escape. Surely you must be aware of this. There was a revelation this morning that the American government now has the technology to extract whatever they want from your hard drive even if it’s not connected to the internet, and are already doing just that. They are far advanced in techniques to read your mind (and control it). The situation is a lot, lot worse than “chilling”. The technical advances and the science is “progressing” so incredibly fast that it’s hard not to believe that they have either been back-engineering alien technology, or are being fed this technology by aliens in return for selling everybody’s soul, as some have claimed to be witnesses of.  I am one of the freeloaders who listens to your program and fast-forwards your ads requesting donations. If I had a lot of money, I would be happy to done $100,000, or a million, since we are talking pie in the sky. But instead I’m a pensioner who has no money in the bank and very often ends up in embarrassing situations where I can’t pay for the simplest things, particularly in emergencies. I would be happy to support you by going through the gauntlet of contacting possible guests. Indeed, I could suggest hundreds of guests for your program. For my purposes, all of your famous-guest appearances have been wasted, as the questioning was just ending in vague re-hashes of the basic position(s) of the guest which have been articulated much more specifically and in more interesting and significant detail in their own articles. I would suggest sticking to a specific theme in each interview, so as to get a much clearer picture of some aspect in meaningful detail. Even on a topic such as, say, vaccinations, by the end of the hour only a little light has been shed, when it would be possible to give a much fuller picture of the evidence in the same period of time. On that subject, what about getting on Robert Kennedy Jr. to reprise the facts in his famous 2005 ROLLING STONE article on vaccinations? It would be a lot harder for Australia to call a Kennedy evil or crazy than some obscure American doctor without a household name. In fact, why not try to arrange an Australian lecture tour yourself for Kennedy Jr., perhaps buttressed by medicos like Viera and Sherri, maybe a few others. That would be an interesting confrontation with reality, and allow a latter-generation Kennedy to create his own profile in courage.

By jay williams on 2015 02 18 - 11:50:15
From the entry 'Why you should stop using Gmail right now'.

josh stupidity says..

I have no idea where you got that statement you attribute to me that “nothing strange going on anywhere, any time.. any how.”
As usual, I don’t expect you are able to quote me.

bwahhaa! that s because thats all you ever say feckknuckle! - you simply state, that contrails may ( under specific rare atmospheric conditions ) persist. ( for inderminate time )

when yconfronted with the non rare, astonishingly numerous documented accounts chemtrails - you simply dismiss them as persistant contrails, nothing to worry about..  as far as quoting you.. all one has to do is read through this very thread to see the totallity of your stupidity.

fact is.. stuff is going on, that can not simply be explained by your continued assertions, unqualified and anonymous as they are.. that we have nothing to worry about, we should relax, they are simply persistant contrails.  go stuff yaself moron. youre a smelly stain on the underpants of the internet

By lhguhg on 2015 02 16 - 20:02:44
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

josh - you unqualified anonymous banal shill - stfu already.
you have absolutely nothing of substance to disprove the patents, the method, the means, the motive, the countless documentation of anomalous trails, far too in number to be reasonably dismissed as “persistant con trails” which according to a link you posted, the specific atmospheric conditions required for, are a RARE occurence. you babble on incessantly as some sort of answer to everything..  but you offer absolutely NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE!

no one is asking for your retarded opinion, so go get a big red dog up you chump.. put up or bloody well shut up fool.

By kjhgg on 2015 02 16 - 19:53:38
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

kjhggfyf/Andrew Adams/Skywatcher,

you may want to follow your own link reference and watch the actual program on the topic. Good and reasonable stuff:
I-Team: Part 2: Chemtrails open skies up to debate


I have no idea where you got that statement you attribute to me that “nothing strange going on anywhere, any time.. any how.”
As usual, I don’t expect you are able to quote me.

What I said and what still stands is that there is no evidence of there being something unusual or unexpected with regard to contrails. This is also the position of atmospheric science, globally. If you think that’s wrong, provide proper evidence. Not YT links, not contrail photos.

I also don’t expect you have evidence for your claim that the contrail conditions “actually seem to occor all over the world, all the bloody time”. I have already told you several times that the average contrail coverage was determined to be 0.09 percent of the whole global sky, at every moment. That translates in an area of roughly 460 000 square kilometers of constant full contrail coverage, with no gaps. And of course this is not distributed homogenously, but concentrated to the areas where the air traffic happens.

So “rare” is a relative term, comparing to the entire world surface. You are consistently ignoring that.

Besides, that value of 0.09% was valid for the data collection period of the study, which went from 1991 to 1992.

Because this value is tied directly to the amount of air traffic, it will now have increased proportionally - almost threefold since 1992. So why should it be amazing that there are more contrails?

By Josh on 2015 02 14 - 01:14:28
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

josh annonymous says nothing strange going on anywhere, any time.. any how.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/28037509/i-team-chemtrails-open-skies-up-to-debate

it seems the *rare atmospheric conditions required for a contrail to persist, actually seem to occor all over the world, all the bloody time!

*rare - according to a link he posted

By kjhggfyf on 2015 02 13 - 13:19:51
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

abbot and bishop are not the only ones who should apologise.. or face a firing squad.
as far as dishonesty goes with ukraine - its the same for both sides of politics. they can not help but lie. even the greens silence means they are just as guilty, as are all the independents who are too gutless to speak the truth.

but the big lie.. the lie 0f 9/11 that gave us the war of terror, the illegal immoral warmongering that has caused the deaths of millions of innocent men women and children who were never a threat to anyone, and millions more worldwide who have been displaced, maimed, poisoned..  the big lie of 9/11, they wont even speak up about that, even though the impossibilities of the official account are obvious.

impossibilities like a 757 dissappearing into the pentagon.

but here, fenton continues to lie about that as well.  if shooting people for trading drugs in indonesia is acceptable to some, why not shoot the liars who perpetuate the lies that kill millions worlwide?? 

im all for a good discussion -  but a bullet between the eyes.. its the only language these arseholes understand..

By Michaela Martin on 2015 02 12 - 20:14:28
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

I here ya, your suggestion is kinda counter productive thats exactly what they are trying to create! They are the terrorists, Abbott & Bishop should publicly apologise to Putin for a start as undeniable evidence is available for all to see Ukrainians shot Malay aircraft Not Russians! Education is the answer & its growing now, thanks for the site link, check out Justiceforgermans   good one to.Getting tired of paid off shabez goi,s!

By Lachlan on 2015 02 12 - 18:18:09
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

@ lachlan,
i didnt say a missile hit the pentagon, what i am saying though, is it is quite obvious it wasnt a 757, and fenton and the rest of the disinfo agents, have absolutely no evidence it was flight 77.

there are countless places to discuss truth - this lady seems to be doing a good job - http://gumshoenews.com/ - she doesnt lie like fenton - but what good does it really do? you know the truth, i know the truth, everyone knows the truth, but main stream media and fenton still lie, and pretend theres no such thing as chemtrails, and that a 757 hit the pentagon.  and they can not back it up with any convincing argument.

you want to make a difference, you need to blow shit up. that is not advice, or a recomendation, simply an opinion that talking wont make a difference. in the meantime however, its not too hard to call out the bullshitters, like fenton, and j.annonymous.. and highlight their mendacity..  while explaining to friends and family the impossibility of a plane hitting the pentagon, the unlikliness of the rare specific atmospheric conditions suitable for persistant contrails to be occurring so often as to be a reasonable explanation for all the observed chemtrails worldwide - they couldnt win a debate even with no counter argument they are so stupid..

its a little bit of fun as well..

By Michaela Martin on 2015 02 11 - 13:39:12
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Hi Michaela, you are right on that topic undeniable truth a misile hit the Pentagon, I suggest a place where truth seekers could meet, and dis cuss stuff, not like anoymous I think they are usurped by Talmudic scum, but real people finally getting together ! Any suggestions? Once a month not to hard? Whats happening now in Ukraine for instance is more psychopathic war mongering!

By Lachlan on 2015 02 10 - 12:34:11
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

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