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Islamists vow revenge for the death of a ‘warrior’

04 May 2011 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

http://www.smh.com.au/world/islamists-vow-revenge...html

Tom Allard, Jakarta | May 4, 2011

THE killing of Osama bin Laden will bring ''disaster'' to the US and the al-Qaeda leader secured victory even in death, according to radical Indonesian cleric Abu Bakar Bashir.

Bashir, who is in prison as he faces charges of leading and financing a new terrorist organisation, met with his acolytes yesterday for the first time since news of bin Laden's demise.

''Ustad Abu [Bashir] said if the news is true, it means Osama won the battle twice,'' said his spokesman, Sonhadi, who visited Bashir in the Jakarta penitentiary.

''First, he will get the title as martyr in the afterlife and, second, his death is the victory over the hegemony of infidels. Ustad Abu also said Allah will bring disaster upon the US for killing the warrior of Islam … we just don't know what that disaster will be.''

Mr Sonhadi, who himself was imprisoned for four years for hiding terrorist leaders, said Bashir had his doubts that bin Laden had been killed, noting that no pictures of his corpse had been made public.

It was a theme prominent on Indonesian jihadist blogs and comments from militants yesterday, as were predictions of bloody revenge.

''Americans may be partying, celebrating his death. But they will cry later and be blanketed with pain,'' Syawal Yasin told the Jakarta Globe newspaper.

Syawal is the son-in-law of Abdullah Sungkar, who along with Bashir founded Jemaah Islamiah (JI), the terrorist group with direct links to al-Qaeda responsible for multiple attacks in Indonesia, including both Bali bombings.

JI has been badly fractured thanks to successful law enforcement efforts but other extremist groups have come to the fore, including some that are legal and have links to the police and political figures.

The Islamic Defenders' Front (FPI), which has been behind a string of attacks on religious minorities, will hold a commemoration service tonight in honour of bin Laden.

Jakarta's governor and police chief attended FPI's anniversary celebrations last year. The Jakarta police chief, Timur Prabopo, was later appointed national police chief by Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. A series of plots have been uncovered in Indonesia in the past two years, including a plan to explode a massive bomb near a church during Good Friday services last month.

Any operational involvement by al-Qaeda in Indonesian militant groups these days remains unclear but great intrigue surrounds the arrest of Umar Patek, Indonesia's most wanted militant, in January in Abbottabad, the same Pakistani city where bin Laden was slain. The arrest followed a firefight in which the JI operative was shot.

Patek was a senior JI member who trained in Afghanistan and acted as deputy field commander in the first Bali bombing that killed 202 people, including 88 Australians.

Pakistani media reports said Patek was liaising with an al-Qaeda operative, a courier who also worked as a clerk at Abbottabad's post office.

According to an anonymous source from Indonesia's intelligence agency quoted in Koran Tempo, Patek was in Abbottabad to meet with al-Qaeda operatives and plan attacks to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

Anthony Bubalo, an analyst writing on the Lowy Interpreter blog, said: ''Perhaps most interesting of all is why bin Laden was not spooked into moving location as a result of Patek's arrest.''

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Well I’m yet to watch it but am going to tonight smile

But about the second half of the show.. You were talking about empires and revolutions. What do you guys think about the reason why each revolution just gets replaced by more tyranny, being that maybe each empire is actually just the same bloodlines using different faces.. Different locations.. Crafting each revolution to give us the illusion we have change.. I would not put it past them or us..

Any thoughts?

By Shaun on 2014 12 23 - 01:55:34
From the entry 'Who controls the world, and what can you do about it?'.

i agree with the first two comments. Lets say the film is a propaganda film; how is it different to the loads of films the Americans and the British made to uplifting music during the war? Does that mean we shouldn’t believe any of them either? Sorry, but i think your argument is crap.
Watch all of it, read the articles, study the facts and then come back and tell us all how important the music is.
I have met some of you people before and i honestly thought you were better than that.

By Glenn on 2014 12 22 - 20:36:05
From the entry 'Who controls the world, and what can you do about it?'.

I agree with Mr Tiedemann’s comments.  It is evident that you not have viewed this film.  I did not hear any constructive discussion on this subject in your recent program.

By jewels on 2014 12 22 - 18:36:33
From the entry 'Who controls the world, and what can you do about it?'.

http://www activistpost com/2014/12/these-15-arguments-will-destroy.html

how many planes hit the pentagon josh? liar.

By you losers on 2014 12 21 - 09:35:20
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard Clampett is correct if he states that airway charts are no direct indication of actual traffic.

However it shows that there are designated routes over South Burnett. It’s not an area where air traffic is unusual.

For the actual traffic consult Flightradar 24 over the South Burnett region.

Regarding the semantics of “from/to Sydney and Brisbane” let me clearly state that I never had the route between Sydney and Brisbane in mind. This might have been more clear to people following the discussion with Cris.

The bottom line and the relevant point is that there is just no evidence for days with “only one jet” over South Burnett. Flight tracking shows clearly that there is constant traffic over the region. Show me a day with only five jets over South Burnett on Flightradar 24 - even limited to the daylight period - and I will be convinced.

The statement of Cris (“We are lucky to get 1 jet a day visible here normally”) can indeed only refer to the visibility with bare eyes on a non-trail day, not the actual traffic, as explained extensively and repeatedly.

Regarding the “3 or more abreast” situation that Cris referred to, I quote my reply from the first time this was brought up:

Next time you see three planes abreast, or circles, or grids - grab a camera and take a picture. Otherwise it’s hard to say what you saw. May have been normal traffic where the many routes are bound to intersect at some points, or circling in holding positions, or military exercises.

Without seeing pictures, it’s just speculation.

I can add now that I have observed several situations on Flightradar where three planes were close together (vertically separated of course), going in the same direction. Why should that be unusual?

 

By Josh on 2014 12 19 - 01:13:29
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

chris

By the way I I still don’t have an answer for when there are 3 or more abreast?????

you dont get answers from josh anonymous.. its beyond his capabilities, you will get a whole heap of incomprehensible bluff and bluster though..

i usually try to make it easy for the poor sap, just asking simple yes or no questions, or those requiring a one word answer..  but they seem to be the ones he struggles with the most? - he really is an enigma.. he should donate his body to science, and i dont think he should wait till he dies either..

By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 12:45:51
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard

This means aircraft from/to Sydney and Brisbane. There is no mention of any other geographical locations so it is demonstrable that you refer to those two cities.

he must really struggle with simple day to day tasks.. honestly.. that is another example of when he accussed me of making threats, then denied he wrote that, then wanted me to show him precisely where he did, and when shown, simply ignores all reference to it..  pretends it didnt happen at all.. unbelievable really - if he is the best answer to prove that chemtrails dont exist, they really are struggling.. 

he thinks proving a point, obviously, is simply banging away at the keyboard and hitting submit, with no consideration to rhyme or reason.. relevence, consistency, logic or common sense.

he wont / cant even answer simple questions.. incapable of providing a yes or no answer to a simple question. he feels his inconsistencies, lies, qualifications, credibility, have no relevence to anything so long as he keeps the babble going on and on.. he is doing a good job.

I suspect Janonymous is a whack-job rather than a shill.

you might be right there, it would be almost impossible for a shill to pretend to be so stupid.. and in most instances, id feel a little bit of pity..  but i dont in this case, he needs medication or something, he is obviously in a lot of misery..

By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 12:42:20
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Pretty busy here.
Looked at the link late last night.
If there were planes on those routes I would have seen very few as nearly all of the routes don’t come close enough to me.
Maximus, you are not omniscient.
You are clueless.
By the way I I still don’t have an answer for when there are 3 or more abreast?????
What about the ones that intersect those paths….only a few of which go near me?????
What about the stop start ones?
And the ones that make curvy border around an approaching weather front?
Or the giant circle that I took photos of?
Just because the lap dog news can pump out NWO propaganda unopposed because they won’t print evidence to the contrary doesn’t mean you will get away with it.
Do you need hearing aids?
VERY FEW JETS UP HERE UNLESS THERE IS IMMANENT RAIN!!!

By Cris on 2014 12 18 - 12:30:48
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Janonymous, if you knew anything at all, you would know that the Skyvector aeronautical charts you give reference to are simply charts of airways and no indication of any traffic whatsoever.

Leonard Clampett,
“I have flown Sydney - Brisbane and Brisbane - Sydney many tines”
Huh? Did anybody talk about that route?
I said that planes from Sydney and to Sydney as well as planes from Brisbane and to Brisbane are flying over the region.
Earlier I have stated (referring to Queensland):
“All the traffic between Shanghai, Beijing in the North-West and Sydney in the Sout-East is going over it, as well as the Brisbane - Singapore route. Among the traffic are many cargo flights which shouldn’t come as a surprise. Then add all those continental connections.”
Here is a direct link to the enroute vector map centered over Brisbane. Drag it to South Burnett - as I said, fairly busy.
By Josh on 2014 12 17 - 22:34:06

By Leonard Clampett on 2014 12 18 - 12:07:06
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Janonymous seems not to be able to understand that which he writes. BTW Janonymous, you did not “say”, you “wrote” the following. Perhaps English is not your first language, but you seem to try hard with it to demonstrate your odd views. You WROTE the following;

“Looking at FR24, there are many, possibly 60-70 (varying, of course), because planes from/to Sydney and Brisbane do fly over the region. Run FR24 in time-warping mode to visualize the traffic during one day.”

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This means aircraft from/to Sydney and Brisbane. There is no mention of any other geographical locations so it is demonstrable that you refer to those two cities. It means aircraft flying between the two cities. If you really knew anything about that which you claim, you would know that aircraft that fly over the Burnett are not those between Sydney and many other places. Look at the maps. look at the high and low level RNC’s. Wake up. If you meant aircraft arriving at, and departing from, Sydney and Brisbane for other locations you would have written so.

By Leonard Clampett on 2014 12 18 - 11:58:26
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

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