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Media Ignores Real Controversy Behind Torture Photos; They Show Prison Guards Raping Children

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Former Governor Jesse Ventura: Let Me Judge Torture Photos On Behalf Of The American People

Media Ignores Real Controversy Behind Torture Photos; They Show Prison Guards Raping Children

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com | May 21, 2009

The real reason behind Obama’s reversal of a decision to release the torture photos has been almost completely ignored by the corporate media - the fact that the photos show both US and Iraqi soldiers raping teenage boys in front of their mothers.

The Obama administration originally intended to release photos depicting torture and abuse of detainees in Afghanistan and Iraq by the end of May, following a court order arising out of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit first filed by the ACLU in 2004.

However, a reversal of Obama’s decision was announced this week, after he “changed his mind after viewing some of the images and hearing warnings from his generals in Iraq and in Afghanistan that such a move would endanger US troops deployed there,” according to a Washington Post report.

In response, the ACLU charged that Obama “has essentially become complicit with the torture that was rampant during the Bush years by being complicit in its coverup.” The Obama administration has also sought to protect intelligence officials involved in torture from prosecution at every turn.

The primary reason why Obama is now blocking the release of the photos is that some of the pictures, as well as video recordings, show prison guards sodomizing young boys in front of their mothers, both with objects as well as physical rape.

This horrific detail has been almost completely ignored by the establishment media in their coverage of the story this week, despite the fact that it’s been in the public domain for nearly five years, after it was first revealed by investigative Seymour Hersh during an ACLU conference in July 2004.

“Some of the worst things that happened you don’t know about, okay?” said Hersh. “Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib … The women were passing messages out saying ‘Please come and kill me, because of what’s happened’ and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It’s going to come out.”

Hersh’s contention that minors were raped by prison guards while others filmed the vulgar spectacle is backed up by a leaked Abu Ghraib memorandum highlighted in a 2004 London Guardian report, in which detainees Kasim Hilas describes “the rape of an Iraqi boy by a man in uniform”. The testimony was also part of the military’s official Taguba Report into the torture at Abu Ghraib.

“I saw [name blacked out] ####### a kid, his age would be about 15-18 years. The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets. Then when I heard the screaming I climbed the door because on top it wasn’t covered and I saw [blacked out], who was wearing the military uniform putting his dick in the little kid’s ass,” Mr Hilas told military investigators. “I couldn’t see the face of the kid because his face wasn’t in front of the door. And the female soldier was taking pictures.”

Another inmate, Thaar Dawod, described more abuse of teenage boys.

“They came with two boys naked and they were cuffed together face to face and Grainer [Corporal Charles Graner, one of the military policemen facing court martial] was beating them and a group of guards were watching and taking pictures from top and bottom and there was three female soldiers laughing at the prisoners,” he said.

A 2004 London Telegraph report also described photos which showed “US soldiers beating an Iraqi prisoner nearly to death and having sex with a female PoW,” as well as a videotape, apparently made by US personnel, which shows “Iraqi guards raping young boys”.

Former Governor Jesse Ventura today offered a solution to the controversy surrounding President Obama’s decision to reverse an earlier promise to release the torture photos - let Ventura see the photos on behalf of the American people and then decide if they should be released.

Ventura told the Alex Jones Show today, “How about if I step forward on behalf of the taxpayers and the citizens of the great United States of America - and I wanna go public with this - I will represent us, let me go where these photos are, let me go inside and see them and let me come out and report back as to what these photos are.”

“I think I have the right to do that, I think they have no right to keep me from doing that, you know why? I pay their salaries and I’m a governor, I’m a mayor, I’m a former Navy SEAL, I had a top secret security clearance - I think I’m fully qualified to walk in and view these photos,” said Ventura, adding, “I’ll report to the public, what it is why we shouldn’t be able to see them because I understand it could infuriate the enemy, but I’m not the enemy and therefore I think I have every right to see these photos in private.”

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Leonard Clampett is correct if he states that airway charts are no direct indication of actual traffic.

However it shows that there are designated routes over South Burnett. It’s not an area where air traffic is unusual.

For the actual traffic consult Flightradar 24 over the South Burnett region.

Regarding the semantics of “from/to Sydney and Brisbane” let me clearly state that I never had the route between Sydney and Brisbane in mind. This might have been more clear to people following the discussion with Cris.

The bottom line and the relevant point is that there is just no evidence for days with “only one jet” over South Burnett. Flight tracking shows clearly that there is constant traffic over the region. Show me a day with only five jets over South Burnett on Flightradar 24 - even limited to the daylight period - and I will be convinced.

The statement of Cris (“We are lucky to get 1 jet a day visible here normally”) can indeed only refer to the visibility with bare eyes on a non-trail day, not the actual traffic, as explained extensively and repeatedly.

Regarding the “3 or more abreast” situation that Cris referred to, I quote my reply from the first time this was brought up:

Next time you see three planes abreast, or circles, or grids - grab a camera and take a picture. Otherwise it’s hard to say what you saw. May have been normal traffic where the many routes are bound to intersect at some points, or circling in holding positions, or military exercises.

Without seeing pictures, it’s just speculation.

I can add now that I have observed several situations on Flightradar where three planes were close together (vertically separated of course), going in the same direction. Why should that be unusual?

 

By Josh on 2014 12 19 - 01:13:29
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

chris

By the way I I still don’t have an answer for when there are 3 or more abreast?????

you dont get answers from josh anonymous.. its beyond his capabilities, you will get a whole heap of incomprehensible bluff and bluster though..

i usually try to make it easy for the poor sap, just asking simple yes or no questions, or those requiring a one word answer..  but they seem to be the ones he struggles with the most? - he really is an enigma.. he should donate his body to science, and i dont think he should wait till he dies either..

By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 12:45:51
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard

This means aircraft from/to Sydney and Brisbane. There is no mention of any other geographical locations so it is demonstrable that you refer to those two cities.

he must really struggle with simple day to day tasks.. honestly.. that is another example of when he accussed me of making threats, then denied he wrote that, then wanted me to show him precisely where he did, and when shown, simply ignores all reference to it..  pretends it didnt happen at all.. unbelievable really - if he is the best answer to prove that chemtrails dont exist, they really are struggling.. 

he thinks proving a point, obviously, is simply banging away at the keyboard and hitting submit, with no consideration to rhyme or reason.. relevence, consistency, logic or common sense.

he wont / cant even answer simple questions.. incapable of providing a yes or no answer to a simple question. he feels his inconsistencies, lies, qualifications, credibility, have no relevence to anything so long as he keeps the babble going on and on.. he is doing a good job.

I suspect Janonymous is a whack-job rather than a shill.

you might be right there, it would be almost impossible for a shill to pretend to be so stupid.. and in most instances, id feel a little bit of pity..  but i dont in this case, he needs medication or something, he is obviously in a lot of misery..

By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 12:42:20
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Pretty busy here.
Looked at the link late last night.
If there were planes on those routes I would have seen very few as nearly all of the routes don’t come close enough to me.
Maximus, you are not omniscient.
You are clueless.
By the way I I still don’t have an answer for when there are 3 or more abreast?????
What about the ones that intersect those paths….only a few of which go near me?????
What about the stop start ones?
And the ones that make curvy border around an approaching weather front?
Or the giant circle that I took photos of?
Just because the lap dog news can pump out NWO propaganda unopposed because they won’t print evidence to the contrary doesn’t mean you will get away with it.
Do you need hearing aids?
VERY FEW JETS UP HERE UNLESS THERE IS IMMANENT RAIN!!!

By Cris on 2014 12 18 - 12:30:48
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Janonymous, if you knew anything at all, you would know that the Skyvector aeronautical charts you give reference to are simply charts of airways and no indication of any traffic whatsoever.

Leonard Clampett,
“I have flown Sydney - Brisbane and Brisbane - Sydney many tines”
Huh? Did anybody talk about that route?
I said that planes from Sydney and to Sydney as well as planes from Brisbane and to Brisbane are flying over the region.
Earlier I have stated (referring to Queensland):
“All the traffic between Shanghai, Beijing in the North-West and Sydney in the Sout-East is going over it, as well as the Brisbane - Singapore route. Among the traffic are many cargo flights which shouldn’t come as a surprise. Then add all those continental connections.”
Here is a direct link to the enroute vector map centered over Brisbane. Drag it to South Burnett - as I said, fairly busy.
By Josh on 2014 12 17 - 22:34:06

By Leonard Clampett on 2014 12 18 - 12:07:06
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Janonymous seems not to be able to understand that which he writes. BTW Janonymous, you did not “say”, you “wrote” the following. Perhaps English is not your first language, but you seem to try hard with it to demonstrate your odd views. You WROTE the following;

“Looking at FR24, there are many, possibly 60-70 (varying, of course), because planes from/to Sydney and Brisbane do fly over the region. Run FR24 in time-warping mode to visualize the traffic during one day.”

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This means aircraft from/to Sydney and Brisbane. There is no mention of any other geographical locations so it is demonstrable that you refer to those two cities. It means aircraft flying between the two cities. If you really knew anything about that which you claim, you would know that aircraft that fly over the Burnett are not those between Sydney and many other places. Look at the maps. look at the high and low level RNC’s. Wake up. If you meant aircraft arriving at, and departing from, Sydney and Brisbane for other locations you would have written so.

By Leonard Clampett on 2014 12 18 - 11:58:26
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

dont ya love it when theis .. beyond the spin website ... posts twitter links ad nauseam regurtitating main stream media spin of the ‘sydney siege” - utter hypocrisy

how many planes hit the pentagon josh you liar?  whats wrong? cant answer a simple question?

By Anrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 11:32:25
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

how many planes hit the pentagon josh you liar?  whats wrong? cant answer a simple question?

By Andrew Adams on 2014 12 18 - 09:34:53
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard Clampett,

I have flown Sydney - Brisbane and Brisbane - Sydney many tines

Huh? Did anybody talk about that route?

I said that planes from Sydney and to Sydney as well as planes from Brisbane and to Brisbane are flying over the region.

Earlier I have stated (referring to Queensland):

“All the traffic between Shanghai, Beijing in the North-West and Sydney in the Sout-East is going over it, as well as the Brisbane - Singapore route. Among the traffic are many cargo flights which shouldn’t come as a surprise. Then add all those continental connections.”

Here is a direct link to the enroute vector map centered over Brisbane. Drag it to South Burnett - as I said, fairly busy.

By Josh on 2014 12 17 - 22:34:06
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Cris wrote:

Why do I see none or one on a particular day and 100 plus the next?

I have repeatedly explained that. Why do you keep asking and then ignoring the answer?

How many of the 100 were jets?

All of the 96. There was one small plane flying IFR that I did not count. It’s unusual for small planes to have an ADS-B transponder equipped.

So there are 100 plus passenger jets going over my little bit of the world every day?

Nobody has claimed that. Of course it varies from day to day, and a big share of the traffic is freight planes.

Where are they going?

Click on individual planes in Flightradar 24 and you can see the flight details including destination.

Not here mate.

Are you saying Flightradar 24 is wrong and you are right? Can you elaborate?
Note that FR 24 is based on many independent volunteers who receive ADS-B data directly from the planes and upload it.

Have a look for yourself, by all means! In my last post I provided a direct link to the beginning of the recorded day.
How much easier do you need it to be? You can see the links in my posts, right?

I further doubt that I would see planes 60 miles away.

Yes, probably not the planes but you’ll see the contrails.
Other people have taken on the task of finding out the specifics. You have the given contrail height of about six miles, so with simple trigonometry you can determine the approximate distance from the viewing angle over the horizon.

Five degrees means 68 miles, roughly 110 km - in every direction. South Burnett is grossly 80 km wide and 120 km long, so your field of view is bigger than the area of the region.

By Josh on 2014 12 17 - 22:13:43
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

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