Thugs have threatened to shut down TNRA - we must be doing something right!

10 October 2012 | Permalink | comments: 11
By Hereward Fenton

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Categories: [ Chemtrails, Cyber Crime, Fascism ]

Some of the fanatical chemtrail believers are posting threats on this website, eg:

Hereward as a computer whatever I hope you know about zombie trojans and how to check for them. Buckle up boys the ride is about to get bumpy

These threats are of course pathetic and indicative of a major chip on the shoulder. I doubt the author is even capable of "walking the talk", but I'm flattered nonetheless that he thinks TNRA is important enough to warrant such an attack.

These threats are purportedly coming as a result of my sceptical position on chemtrails, believe it or not!

The fact that chemtrailers are willing to entertain the idea of using violence against TNRA should indicate to you that there is something amiss with the whole chemtrails movement.

I believe "chemtrails" is quite likely a psyop, similar to the 9/11 "no-planes" meme, designed to sew discord and division among the community of truth seekers by injecting absurd and empirically unsound claims into general discussion.

I believe the fundamentally evil intent of those promoting "chemtrails" is exposed in these threats against me, simply for taking a sceptical position (ie: asking for evidence).

These are the classic bully tactics of fascists, who use a mix of deception, violence and mob mentality to destabilise their opposition.

This is not in the spirit of the truth movement. These guys have been outed by their own hand.

I hope this will prompt all our regular listeners to reconsider what I have been saying about chemtrails all along, to ask the hard questions, and honestly look at both sides of the argument.

Let it be known that I will, at my discretion, ban people who are persistently rude, persistently off-topic in a spammy way, expose privileged personal information, make libelous accusations, or (most pertinently) use threats in lieu of argument and evidence to make their point! If you are already banned it's because you fall into one of these categories. If you email me and promise me not to do it again I may lift the ban. The ball is in your court.

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Sorry to hear about threats, and just the general mishmash the last CT thread has become :D As I mentionned before, it is quite possibly counterproductive to sound the alarm on “chemtrails” without explaining in a larger context and especially pointing to a solution (which involves orgonite)... Regardless, I recommend having orgonite (easy to make at low cost) to protect against health effects of microwaves (antennas, Wifi, portable DECT phones etc.)... family suffered from a heartattack, diminished eyesight… neighbors very near to a mast from leukemias, alzheimer (microwaves will open the blood brain barrier and let heavy metals through). The science is there (on microwaves at least), but each of us should ensure we are getting ever closer to what is true through a constant back and forth between reality and our experience of reality Cheers.

By harvey on 2012 10 10 - 21:28:30

I do believe there is something different with our skies - the whitening and brightness and what many call ‘chemtrails’. What this all is - geo-engineering, the numerous microwaves currently in our atmosphere or another phenomenon - I have no idea, but that is my personal opinion and where I like to leave it.
It is not necessary that we agree with each other all the time. You will never get anyone to agree with your view with stand over tactics.
Truth seekers are the butt of much ridicule from mainstream and it is unhelpful to start attacking each other.

By Whiteout on 2012 10 11 - 17:32:27

wow - you get one “threatening?” comment out of hundreds and turn that into an article about how youre fighting the good fight, instead of just countering the comment in the article itself - well i guess you cant do that because facts are simply not on your side.

you say you like to discuss things openly and honestly, and look at both sides of issues? bullshit herewerd.. you deleted my comments and banned my ip for simply pointing out you hypocrisy in regard to your facebook article

what a wanker - could you possibly be any further up yourself?

By meagain on 2012 10 12 - 09:00:04

and i might add…

you call people ‘chemtrailers” as disparagingly as someone who supports a proper investigation into 911 is called a “truther’ in a derogatory way.. by those who are afraid of the truth..

just because i have questions about all the trails i see over my house today.. i must belong to an evil, fanatical group of people.

you can not prove beyond all reasonable doubt, that we are not being sprayed with anything, and the preponderance of evidence suggests we are.

under such circumstances, and because there is a growing awareness that things dont seem right, it is not unreasonable to ask questions, and its totally unreasonable for you, as the editor of a website that “purportedly ” supports truth - to label people like this just because they dont believe what you “believe”

“This is not in the spirit of the truth movement.”

as far as no planes go… im not saying there was no planes.. but im yet to see ONE piece of forensically matched evidence that matches ANY of the planes said to have crashed that day..

my previous comments you deleted were nothing like what you describe here as reasons why you ban people.. and you know it.

By meagain on 2012 10 12 - 09:21:12

governments wouldnt “spray” people would they?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210415/Revealed-Army-scientists-secretly-sprayed-St-Louis-radioactive-particles-YEARS-test-chemical-warfare-technology.html

http://nautilus.org/apsnet/us-chemical-and-biological-warfare-tests-in-the-pacific-and-australia/

they would, they could, they did… but if you see something that doesnt look right, just trust hereward when he says he believes it to be a psyop..

what qualifies him to suppose his opinion should bear any greater weight than what millions see with their own eyes every day? - youd have to ask him…

By meagain on 2012 10 12 - 09:42:33

certainly not posting this as proof of anything, more as justification why simply asking questions is not unreasonable. as there is plenty more similar information out there regarding geoengineering, owning the weather ( http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO409F.html) - haarp - etc etc etc.. to totally dismiss all of this, is akin to dismissing all the evidence that shows 911 could not have happened as per the official explanation.. and like to people who argue so fervently against anyone who questions 911, you have to ask what people are scared of when they try to stop people asking about “chemtrails”

Chemtrail Whistleblower Allan Buckmann: Some Thoughts on Weather Modification
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/chemtrail-whistleblower-allan-buckmann.html

Smoking Gun: The HAARP and Chemtrails Connection
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/smoking-gun-haarp-and-chemtrails.html

By meagain on 2012 10 12 - 09:56:20

what a wanker - could you possibly be any further up yourself?

Meagain,

It’s because of statements like the above that you were banned before, and that’s why you’ll be banned again.

You appear to have no idea how to communicate on a public forum.

See ya!

By Hereward Fenton on 2012 10 12 - 15:16:32

“It’s because of statements like the above that you were banned before, and that’s why you’ll be banned again.”

thats a lie.. in no way was i rude before you deleted my comments and blocked me.. all i said to upset you was to point out what you were saying was hypocritical..

so….wow, blocked ip again…

whats wrong? too precious? the aussie vernacular too much for you? its ok for you to call people naes, but cant handle it yourself? -

youve called me a troll before, just for having a differing opinion, you also infer that anyone who disagrees with you here, is an evil fanatic!

all im doing is pointing that out.. if talking truth on a truth forum in not how one should communicate on a public forum… ( lol - youre gorgeous! ) then - heavens to betsy! better?

how about you stop pretending to be mortally insulted, and address the points i made, ie; its not unreasonable to question what “chemtrails” are all about.. and why you consider yourself to be the final arbiter on what is true and what isnt.. in regards to not only 911, but chemtrails too.. i guess youre an expert on every other topic you can think of as well?

By m3again on 2012 10 12 - 15:31:07

Yep I asked for the DOH to prove to me how many litres of water they alledge and charge me for using weekly, unmetered, they dont comply with international property and maintenance codes, residents arnt privy to off peak electricity, They supposidly servants, send sherrifs around with a 1st instance warrant a corporate entity doh and ccct concoct amongst them selves and proport as legal when their alledged bill /certificate doesnt comply with weights and measures legislation ??? that ll teach me to state i like the Tea party principles at my community hall now wont it !~! ;-/

By pbd62 on 2012 10 14 - 08:21:17

Hello Truth News Radio Australia,

Asking if you know about virus protection is not a threat against your site. Do you understand the difference between physical violence & digital activism? Are you ready for a lesson?

http://tinyurl.com/9ryawx6

We Are Anonymous
We Are Legion
We Do Not Forgive
We Do Not Forget
Expect Us

By Anonymous on 2012 10 17 - 08:12:48

I’ll tell you why I believe in chemtrails.

Because I was told my a Chemist in Australia. We usually hear this kind of stuff from America and so it’s nice when one of your own tell you things like this!

Another thing is that I live in Western Sydney and I they seem to spray twice a week with these very skinny, ugly looking clouds. On days I’ve been off work I’ve seen weird planes spraying very long streams of white that doesn’t dissipate properly in the sky and eventually stretches out. Normal clouds look like nice think pillows you could sleep on in comparison. Harmless contrails from planes disappear within minutes.

And I heard Jeff Rense on his show talking about this not long ago and you can see the URL above. He has a lot of bad news unfortunately.

By Bill Weavers on 2012 10 18 - 14:35:27

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By Leonard Clampett on 2013 04 11 - 09:31:03
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 04 11 - 09:28:20
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

http://www.soldierhugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Geoengineering.pdf

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 04 11 - 09:19:23
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard Clampett,

the video you linked is a really old conglomerate of all sorts of claims that have been debunked ad nauseam.

What do you think is the ultimate proof for the existence of chemtrails?

Why should we have to assume there is such a thing like chemtrails? How are they different from contrails?

By Josh on 2013 04 10 - 06:59:34
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

http://realnewsworldwide.com/2008/09/10/chemtrails-ultimate-proof/

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 04 09 - 16:31:36
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

If you open the link you will see the reference to chemtrail area forecasts. The other link I wish to post is refused by the “Truth news” which claims it may be SPAM and “will be moderated”, probably because it mentions chemtrails in the link. However, I will try again by separating the words. http://www.chemtrail forecast.com/main.html

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 03 13 - 09:02:16
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

about the link you posted - where is the relevance in the discussion about persistent contrails?

By Josh on 2013 03 13 - 08:50:08
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

http://www.haarpstatus.com/status.html

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 03 13 - 08:44:15
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

after you consistently refused to accept the fact that fuel combustion generates more water than the equivalent of fuel burnt - even when a Qantas pilot confirmed this - I am highly skeptical of your “aviation life experience”. I hope you understand that.

So there are more explanations needed before your claims can be taken seriously.

1. How did you determine that the ambient conditions at the upper troposphere were not conducive to the formation of contrails this summer?

2. How did you determine the causal connection between trails and lack of rain?

3. How did you determine the altitude of the low trail that you saw? How can you be sure it was below the cumulus? Why not above (remember: 3D viewing up to 160m max)? Any pictures maybe?

If you want to do REAL research on the Internet, I strongly suggest to repeat every search query that you issue with the word “debunked” appended. That is the way to do proper research because you see both sides and their arguments. Don’t just fall for sensational claims.

Unfortunately, the Internet is loaded with bunk.

By Josh on 2013 03 02 - 18:06:10
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Josh Anonymous,

You apparently do not do much research. Notice how, over the Eastern Australian summer, there have been many chemtrails coincident with usual weather patterns where obvious rain should have been the outcome had the chemtrails not been laid, and it was not, and this during the season when ambient conditions are not conducive to the formation of contrails. Chemtrails are entirely different to what you term “persistent contrails” as you would know if you had sufficient aviation life experience. You may try to explain how there was recently, and I have observed the same many times before, a chemtrail below a layer of fair weather Cu at 8,000 ft and how this could possibly occur without the laws of physics and thermodynamics being turned on their head. I suggest that you do an Internet search for the activities of Bill Gates and geoengineering.

By Leonard Clampett on 2013 03 02 - 13:51:00
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.