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02 June 2012

By Hereward Fenton

DISCLAIMER: During the show Damon Crowe made allegations which the persons concerned may find defamatory. These allegations should not be construed as reflecting the views of TNRA or its affiliates.

In this week's show we plunge into murky waters with Damon Crowe, as we look at some fringe conspiracies, analyse breaking news and speculate on the outer limits of deception.

We take a fresh  look at the concept of "cognitive infiltration", a term coined by Obama advisor Cass Sunstein, to describe ways in which government might use deceptive techniques to infiltrate and influence anti-government activist groups and conspiracy theorists.

News covered in tonight's show includes the ongoing extradition saga of Julian Assange and BBC hoax coverage of the Syrian conflict.

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I enjoyed the audio, but you blokes sound a bit irrational on some things, eg. thousands of tons of steel being “vaporized” is ridiculous!
it was trucked away and shipped to China.
Also, your denial of global warming makes me wonder who you are working for and trying to protect.

By gary on 2012 06 02 - 18:48:55

Good show, TNRA. Still think you are wrong in saying that video of WW2 bombers were laying out “contrails” (I mentionned why in the comments section of your article). In short, if the present spraying programme started in the early 90s, I believe it existed before that, including in the first half of last century, albeit at a much smaller scale. Personnaly, chemtrails/HAARP are the one area where I have been able to test out theories (contrary to crumbling towers)... and much what I read or was told turned out to be spot on (though it seemed wild at first).

By harvey on 2012 06 03 - 04:19:40

About chemtrails.
Hereward,look up “geo-engineering”
There are also sites supplying lab results from tested water and soil.
Check also “depopulation”. It’s been active since around 1920’s.

Take care,


By Chris of Masters on 2012 06 03 - 14:38:11

Nice one Chriss of Masters They released the snowy mountains act of 1947 to cloud seed the snowy mountains to make it snow They have been doing it for at least a century. Why make legal Statutory Acts for something that they are not doing…??? Anyone who does not believe in Chem-trails is an ignorant fool…

By Horus on 2012 06 03 - 20:06:37

Nice one Chriss of Masters They released the snowy mountains act of 1947 to cloud seed the snowy mountains to make it snow They have been doing it for at least a century. Why make legal Statutory Acts for something that they are not doing…??? Anyone who does not believe in Chem-trails is an ignorant fool…

By Horus on 2012 06 03 - 20:10:46

I prefer Damon a heap more than Paul with his spiritually dead closed mindedness…blurting out his closed minded crap.
If your mind is closed Paul, then your relationships will suffer and Paul seems to want his suffering to continue by blaming Damon for mentioning something truthful about him. Ha what do you know?
truth seekers?
You can’t handle the truth.

By Powerup on 2012 06 04 - 09:25:58

Great interview Hereward.  Enjoyed the relaxed format.

Posted the interview at Truth and Shadows (everyone there thinks Bursill is an agent!) where there is a debate about Dr Judy Woods in response to Craig McKee’s recent article.

Hi Gary.  I noted your comment “Also, your denial of global warming makes me wonder who you are working for and trying to protect.” 

Please note Damon and Hereward are both climate change sceptics, however Hereward belongs to the minority of “truthers” who are sceptical of chemtrails.  I disagree with Hereward.

By Naomi on 2012 06 04 - 15:06:57

I don’t understand what everyone is going on about. We’re all on the same side here. No-one is an agent. Everyone just has different opinions, personalities, choice of language and ways of perceiving others.

Why are people focusing their energy on trying to discredit one another when that is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to do. We are trying to unite, for it is the only true power we have. And the only way we will overcome darkness. To bring it to the light. Which should be our common goal.  (I would think)

Hereward has created a great platform for us all to listen, learn and research the truth. A great platform for us all to unite and discuss how to act from this knowledge. And it’s being used to argue over small “ego” issues.

Focus on the things we have in common and share new ideas, but respecting those new ideas and theories is key. Not attaching to any of them but go to them when we need them. Non attachment is our biggest challenge, but our biggest friend in all this caos. We only judge new information off the way we have chosen to filter previous information. And while researching we often filter anything that doesn’t suit the result we think we are going to achieve. RESPECT and NON ATTACHMENT is the only way we will get the truth. And hopefully some justice….

Thanks TNRA for another interesting show grin

By Shaun on 2012 06 05 - 18:31:42

The only people in the Australian truthing community who dismiss chemtrails are John Bursill and Hereward Fenton.  I have never met two people who are LESS informed about Chemtrails.

John Bursill believes that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and that anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy theorist.  Well I disagree and so do 99% of the (Real) 9/11 Truth Movement.

By Naomi on 2012 06 12 - 14:18:14

Hey Hereward

Thought you might find this interesting: ” I just came across this blog. Hmmmmm. It is clear that some of the wild theories abounding about contrails and “chemtrails” need to be put to bed, if that is possible. With 14,000 hours in the skies over some 40 odd years, and with an Airline Transport Pilot Licence having flown in a number of countries,and having had to pass the Meteorology examinations in a number of countries including Canada, I think I can put forward reasoned explanations. I have made contrails and flown through my colleagues contrails. The first thing we need to understand is that contrails do not expand. The reason being the simple explanation that ambient conditions have to be right for contrails to form and no aircraft engines add anything to the atmosphere as they pass on their way that could possibly cause any change other than a temporary alteration to temperature. The minuscule amount of water expressed from turbine fuel through combustion is not even worth mentioning. The air that passes through a hot engine, piston or turbine, does not delete the water that exists in the surrounding atmosphere, it merely heats it, turns it to steam and it is condensed back to water vapour as soon as it exits the exhaust or jet pipe. As the temperatures at the altitudes where contrails occur are below freezing, we get ice crystals from the condensing water vapour. Hence we get a trail of ice crystals behind the exhausts which may last for a few minutes or longer depending upon the humidity of the air mass being flown through. The only thing that has changed is the temporary increase in temperature and as can be appreciated at freezing temperatures such a rise in temperature is fleeting. If the ambient conditions were such that an increase in humidity occurred we would get cloud as it is the cooling of water that causes cloud/fog. Cloud is only fog at altitude, fog is only cloud near ground level. No amount of flying can generate sufficient humidity to form cloud and that is what the proponents of “lingering” contrails claim happens. Anybody who has performed high altitude aerobatics in a jet fighter can tell you that it is possible to do a loop at 40,000 and fly through your own slipstream at the bottom and find your contrail has disappeared. You can also fly a steep turn horizontally and fly through your own slipstream and find your contrail disappearing a short distance behind your aircraft. It depends upon the ambient conditions at the time. There would be cloud if the conditions were such that “lingering” contrails persisted and you would not see the contrails because they would form part of the cloud you would be flying through. You could also note that sky writers eject chemicals to form their words in the sky and they disappear rapidly with the wind and persist for short periods of time only if there is light or no wind. Please note that contrails only appear over Eastern Australia in winter in the eastern dry season, and over Western Australia in the winter, as temperatures and conditions are not conducive to contrails in other seasons, yet we see chemtrails in summer in the east during the wet season whenever there is a likelihood of rain. How come? the proponents need to explain how we get aircraft flying over Brisbane emitting chemtrails at and below 10,000 feet AMSL.”

By Christine Haynes on 2012 06 19 - 08:22:54

Hi Christine, please check out this thread - and please respond to the evidence and arguments provided, thanks.

By Hereward Fenton on 2012 07 29 - 19:24:05

Christine pretty much covered it id say, especially as your only “evidence” seems to come from the all trustworthy USA government and a “chemtrail” debunking website.

you want evidence? open your eyes and look up. dont forget to take a few healthy gulps too.

btw.. how long does a post need to ferment in “moderation” before you approve a few lously links?

By Skywatcher on 2012 08 02 - 18:03:46

The only people in the Australian truthing community who dismiss chemtrails are John Bursill and Hereward Fenton. I have never met two people who are LESS informed about Chemtrails.

John Bursill believes that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and that anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy theorist. Well I disagree and so do 99% of the (Real) 9/11 Truth Movement.

does he? really? lolz
if thats true, any credibility i may have given him previously is now zip, nada zilch..

i mean theres incredible, and then theres impossible.

maybe if he can come up with one piece of forensically matched wreckage to the said plane..( wont hold my breath )

or any other credible evidence that can withstand the slightest scrutiny, that shows beyond all reasonable doubt why he might believe such a fantasy, in contradiction to all the evidence that shows otherwise.. i might be open to reconsider my opinion.. 

but seriously?
in this hole

dont come the raw prawn with me mate.

its worth noting too that the “evidence” hereward refers to in this article..

comes from the same government he says is lying about 911. so sometimes they lie, and sometimes they tell the truth? right? hmmm, sounds like a perfect example of how to construct a psyop 101!



By Skywatcher on 2012 08 03 - 12:43:25

Hi Skywatcher

You might enjoy this website -

This website is the home of the Real 9/11 Truth Movement.

Plenty of recent articles about John Bursill and his agent/idiot buddies.


By Naomi on 2012 08 03 - 12:49:37

Thanks Naomi,

i think all aspects of 911 truth are worthy of examination and they will stand and fall based on their own merits. i will certainly enjoy seeing what that site has to offer.

for some to simply declare, as if they are some sort of final arbiter of what should or shouldnt be worth considering, that this, or that, to be true or false, based on nothing but baseless opinion, is no better than gwbush pointing in osamas direction and declaring “yeah thats him man, he attacked us because he hates our freedoms, hes an evil-doer” and expecting that to fly..

actually, history shows that it did float for a little while, but one can only huff and puff so much.. and despite the general unwillingness by most to accept governments are capable of such acts, it doesnt take a great effort to understand the evil they are truly capable of - and i believe the majority now understands that controlled opposition, mis information and dis information is all part of the act.

i can not accept that someone who claims to be on the side of truth, would speak out against any scrutiny of any part of 911 that doesnt conform to the allegations, by a properly appointed, unfettered, independent transparent investigation, with subpoena power, to hear and examine ALL evidence under oath and cross examination, by experts.. until a final verdict can be reached, beyond all reasonable doubt.

truth fears no investigation, and i simply believe that if people dont want all the events at the pentagon, or any other aspect of what happened on 911 to be fully scrutinised, they simply fear the truth.

thanks again for your input. appreciated.

By Skywatcher on 2012 08 03 - 14:43:09

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Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them. 

The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.

There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.   

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I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate.  Double standards?  When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on.  I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.

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Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor.  For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.

Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.

One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.

We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….

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Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years.  But, he makes out like he was born there.  ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses.  I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.

By Keith on 2015 07 17 - 20:51:15
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good to see you putting out some new shows heraward

freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.

i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find

Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too

do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.

feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious


I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac

good show… keep making them

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Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.

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