Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?

Contrails over London in 1944

Vapour trails left by British bombers on route to attack flying-bomb sites encircle the dome of St. Paul's Cathedral. London, 1944.

All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.

If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.

However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.

The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.

There is not a shred of science to backup that claim. Nothing, nada, zippo!

Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.

CONTRAIL SCIENCE

For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.

Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.

After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.

Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
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TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.

But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.

That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since planes first went up in the sky.

If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.

Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.

Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.

Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?

Think about it.

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more disingenuous smarmy hypocritical lying summaries are not needed by the likes of you idiot

anyone who cares to can read and comprehend all previous comments themselves.

all you need to post, is some evidence to support your assertion that there is no such thing as chemtrails.

all youve managed so far, is that contrails exist

not good enough.. put up… or shut up.

what part of that cant you understand?

put up or shut up.

By agin mee on 2012 11 16 - 15:54:07

Speaking of judges, the Suffolk County Legislature in New York State at a hearing on geoengineering last year was persuaded by the arguments of chemtrails activists, and had to fall back on the position that county legislation cannot override US Federal legislation.
http://aircrap.org/public-hearing-proposal-ban-geoengineering-suffolk-county-ny/333437/

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 16 - 16:18:07

you can even read more about the scourge of chemtrails at aussie beach tv! ( lol )

http://aussiebeachtv.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32:what-are-they-spraying&catid=7&Itemid=106

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Are you sick of the corporate controlled, mainstream media feeding you spin, lies and disinformation? Aussie Beach TV are dedicated to bringing you the news that gets swept under the rug. We vow to show you the other side of the coin and to go to the streets and beaches of Australia and ask real Aussies what they think and feel.

By agin mee on 2012 11 16 - 16:31:31

What will the transhumanists think of you trying to lure supporters with GIRLS????? (In the heyday of the Left that used to be called ‘horizontalrecruitment!)

Don’t you realize that human reproduction has to be INDUSTRIALIZED?

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 16 - 17:46:50

Wayne Hall said:

“I asked the self-appointed judge Josh Jackson ...”

Just for the record: that’s not me.

By Josh on 2012 11 16 - 20:08:24

Skywatcher said:

“all youve managed so far, is that contrails exist”

Persistent contrails exist, as on the 1944 photo from London.

There is no evidence that some or all of them are actually spraying of chemicals.

By Josh on 2012 11 16 - 20:41:59

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By Hereward Fenton on 2012 11 16 - 21:18:30

I said:

“Historical events showing careless or evil actions by governments and the military.”

Skywatcher said:

“not circumstantial, documented proven admitted”

You are right, I chose the wrong word: “circumstantial” makes no sense here. The meaning should be “unrelated, with no causal connection”.

I have no doubt that the historical events I referred to are proven and documented. They just don’t explain anything about jet trails.

I have doubt about the chemical analyses brought up as evidence, but even if they were correct, there was no evidence that the findings were in any way related to jet trails six miles above. Too many other possible causes.

By Josh on 2012 11 17 - 00:31:06

Wayne Hall said:

“the Suffolk County Legislature in New York State at a hearing on geoengineering last year was persuaded by the arguments of chemtrails activists”

That is quite a stretch. I recommend reading the protocol of the final hearing when the legislation failed:
http://legis.suffolkcountyny.gov/clerk/cmeet/hh/2011/HT121511.pdf

One legislator remarked (pg. 29):

this was a very poorly drafted piece of legislation, and it’s a shame that it gave people false hope.

And the Health Commissioner’s speaker had this regarding ‘toxic spraying’:

aluminum is a very common part of the earth, it’s 8% of the earth’s crust. It’s very possible a lot of sources emit these compounds in small quantities.

Given what they had learned during the hearing (the Space Shuttle was spraying too!) they probably just tried to be friendly to the group.

BTW, the Long Island Skywatcher have removed all references about that legislation attempt from their site:
http://www.longislandskywatch.com/

By Josh on 2012 11 17 - 06:26:16

There was a post, I think it was made by Skywatcher, which linked a piece from the Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2210415/

The story was reported widely as you would expect from on that uncovers a “secret radioactive spraying project”.

The researcher’s original paper contains this paragraph about the radioactive substance (http://gradworks.umi.com/3515886.pdf on pg. 46):

The material (claimed to be zinc cadmium sulfide) that was sprayed by the Stanford labs in the St. Louis study was referred to internally as “FP2266”. FP2266 was manufactured by the New Jersey Zinc Company and the United States Radium Corporation. The United States Radium Corporation, located in New Jersey, had been in legal hot water decades prior, for producing luminescent paint that was used by girls and young female factory workers to paint watch dials in the 1920s. The young women were instructed to lick the paint-brushes prior to painting the hands onto the watches, in order to refine the point of the brush. As a result, the radioactive material in the paint sickened and killed many of the young women (Frame: 1). Radium 226 was mixed with zinc sulfide to make the radioactive powder that the workers used to paint the watch dials, and the compound was used in manufacturing until the 1970s (Frame: 1). It is unknown if “FP2266” was also known as or incorporated Radium 226, the radioactive radium product produced by United States Radium Corporation

The bottom line is that the addition of a radioactive component to the ‘tagging’ material is only an assumption, based on the substance’s name.

Zinc cadmium sulfide was used because it is fluorescent. It glows in UV light which makes the detection of even tiny amounts possible.
The “glow-in-the-dark” effect in combination with radioactive additives was not needed and would even have been conspicuous. Also, the radioactive particles would have to have been “glued” to the other materials to stimulate the light emission.

Of course, it was bad enough to spray a toxic substance on unsuspecting citizens, even if there was no radioactivity involved. No question about that.

By Josh on 2012 11 20 - 04:57:29

It is a pity I cannot upload photographs to this blog, as I took 4 today at midday showing two distinct chemtrails at about 10,000 feet near our home at Enoggera near Brisbane, which were about 2,000 feet above some scattered fair weather cumulus cloud which appeared to be building toward a normal afternoon storm. The ground temperature was 25 degrees Celsius which means that the temperature could only have been about 15 degrees Celsius at 10,000 feet which is nowhere near cold enough for contrails to form, especially on a hot day with otherwise almost clear skies and a relatively dry atmosphere, i.e. low humidity.

As we are within the controlled airspace of the Brisbane International Airport it is clear to me that the aircraft had to have had an Air Traffic clearance to be where they were, doing what they were doing.

Anybody who would like a copy of the photographs please advise me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I will happily send them on.

I ain’t joshin’ you.

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 28 - 13:40:11

Leonard Clampett,

how did you measure the height of the trails? Triangulation?

Even if your height estimation was correct, your temperature estimation is not. The atmospheric lapse rate is 3° per 1000 ft., so the temperature at 10000 ft. would have been -5° Celsius.

By Josh on 2012 11 28 - 14:26:50

Quite correct Josh, the temperature at 10,000 feet would have been minus 5 degrees Celsius, however with the otherwise clear blue sky and low humidity there was no contrail (condensation trail) and most certainly no ability for a contrail to be voluminous and last for many kilometres across the sky. If anybody has a photograph of a contrail at such a low altitude I would like to see it. You see, if the temperature and humidity had been ripe for a contrail, there would have already been cloud at the place the chemtrail was sprayed. The fair weather cumulus had formed where the ambient conditions were right to form cloud. I have seen chemtrails directly over Brisbane airport at about 10,000 feet at 06:00 hours on a warm summers day. No possible chance of that being a contrail.

The height of the cloud and chemtrail was calculated as by observation, as weather observers have always done and and I have always done as a weather observer and pilot with 50 years in aviation.

As for the requirement for an Airways Clearance to operate in controlled airspace in Australia Wayne, nobody, neither civil or military, can operate in controlled airspace, especially an Airfield Control Zone due to the concentration of traffic, without a clearance and there are severe penalties for intrusion without such a clearance.

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 28 - 14:53:04

Leonard Clampett said:

“with the otherwise clear blue sky and low humidity there was no contrail (condensation trail) and most certainly no ability for a contrail to be voluminous and last for many kilometres across the sky”

I don’t think it’s possible to make that judgement just by looking.
Under the conditions of that moment, Cumulus clouds (also from condensation) were developing.

It may be possible to make a good guess about the base of Cumulus clouds because we know how they are supposed to look and because the shadows on their surface are clearly defining their shape.

The same can’t be said about Cirrus clouds or contrails, no matter the amount of experience. A contrail may seem low if it has spread considerably.
In fact, the process of spreading itself may appear like “sinking”, because size increase is associated with “coming closer” in our mind.

You said:
“nobody, neither civil or military, can operate in controlled airspace”

Except planes that have gotten permission to do so and are under ATC control. Again, you can’t tell by just looking.

By Josh on 2012 11 28 - 17:14:45

Perhaps this can clear up the misunderstandings about cloud/fog and contrail formation, and one can see that the claims about “supersaturation” cannot apply to a free atmosphere because it cannot be pressurised.

The dew point is the temperature below which the water vapour in a volume of humid air at a constant barometric pressure will condense into liquid water. Condensed water is called dew when it forms on a solid surface.

The dew point is a water-to-air saturation temperature. The dew point is associated with relative humidity. A high relative humidity indicates that the dew point is closer to the current air temperature. Relative humidity of 100% indicates the dew point is equal to the current temperature and that the air is maximally saturated with water. When the dew point remains constant and temperature increases, relative humidity decreases.

General aviation pilots use dew-point data to calculate the likelihood of carburettor icing and fog, and to estimate the height of the cloud base.

At a given temperature but independent of barometric pressure, the dew point is a consequence of the absolute humidity, the mass of water per unit volume of air. If both the temperature and pressure rise, however, the dew point will rise and the relative humidity will lower accordingly. Reducing the absolute humidity without changing other variables will bring the dew point back down to its initial value. In the same way, increasing the absolute humidity after a temperature drop brings the dew point back down to its initial level. If the temperature rises in conditions of constant pressure, then the dew point will remain constant but the relative humidity will drop. For this reason, a constant relative humidity percentage with different temperatures implies that when it’s hotter, a higher fraction of the air is water vapour than when it’s cooler.

At a given barometric pressure but independent of temperature, the dew point indicates the mole fraction of water vapour in the air, or, put differently, determines the specific humidity of the air. If the pressure rises without changing this mole fraction, the dew point will rise accordingly; Reducing the mole fraction, i.e., making the air less humid, would bring the dew point back down to its initial value. In the same way, increasing the mole fraction after a pressure drop brings the relative humidity back up to its initial level. Considering New York (33 ft elevation) and Denver (5,280 ft elevation), for example, this means that if the dew point and temperature in both cities are the same, then the mass of water vapour per cubic metre of air will be the same, but the mole fraction of water vapour in the air will be greater in Denver.

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 29 - 12:04:39

The URL for the four photographs of the chemtrails over Brisbane as I took them.
http://imgur.com/0Uylt,UhSWN,b2mPq,fn05I#0

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 29 - 14:16:24

Another note to make a point about humidity calculations. I have been asked my opinion on how to calculate humidity at, say, 30,000 feet over a wide area. Let me say that as a weather observer you need to know the wet and dry bulb temperatures for the place you want to measure. Wet and dry bulb thermometers are necessary to measure the evaporation rate at a particular place. The difference between the wet and dry bulb temperatures allow for calculation of humidity. The evaporation from the wet bulb base cools the thermometer at a calculated rate which then allows humidity to be read from a table. When the two are the same we have 100% humidity and visible moisture. The further the two are apart the drier the air. The wet bulb can only ever otherwise be lower than the dry bulb because 100% saturation equals 100% humidity. Depending upon how much water vapour is in a parcel of air according to the Mole fraction, and any further fall in temperature, we find out much water condenses out into rain and at what rate. Changes in temperature and barometric pressure will change the Dew Point.

At altitude we are dependant upon information fed back from radio Sondes sent up in hydrogen filled weather observation balloons but these only give ambient temperature and not a differing temperature as they rise too quickly to take individual samples and they show the rate of change of conditions as they rise. The calculations for upper air humidity are done by weather forecasters.

The Mole fraction of water vapour expresses the ratio of water molecules - to air and water molecules.

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 29 - 14:52:25

Leonard Clampett,

I have looked at your images. They are showing contrails around 10 degrees over the horizon. This does not mean that the contrails are on a low altitude level; they are on normal contrail/cirrus level, most likely above 30000 feet.

They are just quite a bit away from your position - around 35 miles according to this article:
http://contrailscience.com/how-far-away-is-that-contrail/

How would a natural cirrus cloud look in that distance?

By Josh on 2012 11 29 - 15:00:24

Leonard Clampett said:

“The calculations for upper air humidity are done by weather forecasters”

Weather balloons are reporting back the dew point depending on altitude (pressure level). They show how variable the humidity can be in the atmosphere - without any visible indications.

Consider the Skew-T diagram created by the balloon launched from Brisbane airport, around the time you took the photos:
http://weather.uwyo.edu/cgi-bin/sounding?region=pac&TYPE=GIF:SKEWT&YEAR=2012&MONTH=11&FROM=2700&TO=2700&STNM=94578&REPLOT=1

The left graph line indicates the dew point, with quite extreme jumps.

Note that these are not the conditions that your contrails met. I estimate the distance from your place to Brisbane airport to be around 7 miles. You observed them in this direction (roughly to the west), so according to my previous post their position must have been over the open sea, even beyond Moreton Island.

This is at least 25 miles from the balloon launch, and they were probably created hours before.

The problem with the balloon sounding is that they are retrieving but one single local probe in the complex and variable vastness of the atmosphere.

They can give us a glimpse of this complexity though which should caution us to trust our limited senses too far.

By Josh on 2012 11 29 - 15:34:19

Oh my God Josh, now I know you are just joshin’ me.

10 degrees above the horizon means absolutely nothing in regard to distance because you would be looking along a line to infinity. Your opinion here seems not likely to mean much as you were most certainly not on the spot. If the chemtrail had been at the altitude you would like it to be we would not have been able to see the detail of it which, as you should know, will never show up in a photograph except in a close-up. We were three observers. It seems that, according to the web-site you mentioned, the chemtrail could have been at any point along the infinity line at an altitude corresponding. So, could it have been at 70,000 feet? Detail does not show at distance. Did you notice that the point of the roof in the first image on the house was also at 10 degrees above the horizon and it is just across the road. Note the detail you can see there close up? The top of one tree is about 15 degrees above the horizon so is it at 40,000 feet? Triangulation requires more than single part of an equation. You must know the height (altitude) to get the distance or know the distance to find the altitude. If you knew the altitude of the aircraft why would you be calculating the distance using tan?

I thought there may be some sensible discussion here and came back for a look, but I was wrong. I suggest you could go to the following URL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y for some hints.

I don’t think I will be back.

“Leonard Clampett,

They are just quite a bit away from your position - around 35 miles according to this article:
http://contrailscience.com/how-far-away-is-that-contrail/

How would a natural cirrus cloud look in that distance?

By Josh on 2012 11 29 - 18:00:24
From the entry ‘Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?’.”

By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 29 - 16:04:26

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RECLAIM AUSTRALIA IS DOOMED

Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them.

The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.

There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.

(The ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration)

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/reclaim-australia-rally-set-for-sydney-on-sunday-20150718-gifb9s.html

http://australiafirstparty.net/news/reclaiming-australia-queensland-senate-campaign/

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From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.

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From the entry 'Statism, the greater good and the big lie'.

I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate. Double standards? When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on. I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.

By Citizen Scorn on 2015 07 19 - 07:33:43
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.

Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor. For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.

Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.

One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.

We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….

By Eugene on 2015 07 18 - 16:03:54
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.

Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years. But, he makes out like he was born there. ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses. I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.

By Keith on 2015 07 17 - 20:51:15
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.

good to see you putting out some new shows heraward

freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.

i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U

Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too

do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.

feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious

anyway

I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac

good show… keep making them

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From the entry 'Addictions, obsessions, fanaticisms and distractions'.

Really truthfull.

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Yeah sure authority aware.

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From the entry 'What is the future of Australia?'.

Stay tuned for more rules here as usually is the case!!!

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From the entry 'Mass media disinformation and brainwashing dissected'.

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Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?

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