An Introduction to Australia's slide into a police state and New World Order.
We Are Change is a citizens based grassroots peace and social justice movement working to reveal the truth behind the events of September 11th, as well as the lies of the government and corporate elite who remain suspect in this crime. In addition, we are here to aid the sick and dying first responders through fund-raising and social outreach programs in order to promote awareness of those who suffer from physical, emotional, and psychological traumas they received in the aftermath of 9-11. We also seek to meet other local citizens who are interested in educating the public while engaging in peaceful demonstration about the pertinent issues that are affecting our lives each and every day. Furthermore, We Are Change is a non-partisan independent media organisation comprised of patriot journalists working to hold those engaging in activities that do not represent the wishes of “We the People” - by asking the hard questions that the controlled mainstream media refuses to do.
We seek to expose the fraud of the left/right paradigm and reveal that the world truly functions on a top/down hierarchy that threatens to destroy free society as we know it. We Are Change works to educate, motivate, and activate those striving to uncover the truth behind the private banking cartel of the military industrial complex that is actively seeking to eliminate national sovereignty and replace it with a "one world order."
We Are Change also seek an uncompromising and independent investigation into the crimes of 9-11, with subpoena power granted to obtain a long-overdue resolution for the survivors and families of the deceased. We reject the official explanation of the events leading up to, during and after the attacks of September 11th, 2001 as well as the fear-based politics and state mandated propaganda being disseminated by the Corporate Media which has facilitated the cover-up of 9-11.
As we establish citizens groups throughout the country and world, we wish to inspire a community of truth-seekers and peacemakers through creative campaigns with a commitment of nonviolence. We Are Change is not so much a group but an idea, an idea that “We the People" are the vehicles of these "ideas" and of the freedoms, liberties, and truths we are seeking all across the globe. An idea that captures the spirits of our forefathers who just desired freedom; that together, as residents of this planet, we grow like a snowball of truth and justice rolling down a mountain of tyranny growing bigger and stronger, recognizing the beauty in our differences and the diverseness of each other, but at the same time strengthening our cause because we learn and grow from each others individuality. Then as we learn to come together, that as one, you, me, him, her, us…will realise that WE ARE CHANGE.
more photos here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7627729.stm
According to news reports the Marriott Hotel blast was produced by 600kg of high quality explosives packed into a lorry. The crater is 6m deep and the devastation appears to cover a very wide area.
Although it is unusual for truck bombs to leave craters like this, the blast crater is reminiscent of a number of high profile bomb blasts over the past few years, such as the Bali Bombing and the Harriri assassination.
Looking at the size of the crater, this seems much larger than the massive Sari Night Club blast. The inside of the hotel is completely destroyed. It is hard to believe that anyone could have survived, which leads one to speculate that the death toll may be higher than the official 53. The attack is of course blamed on "Al Qaeda", but clearly there is advanced military technology at work here.
One suspects that the Cheney war camp is fed up with Pakistan's drift towards democracy.
Black propaganda is false material where the source is disguised. It is propaganda that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent the enemy.
21 September 2008
Internet censorship is once again in the news after legendary YouTube user Nuffrespect posted a new video detailing the latest online attack on 9/11 Truth: a user who is creating clones of respected user accounts and truth movement leaders in order to smear 9/11 Truth by posting racist comments. These have already led to the deletion of several well-known accounts in what has been revealed as a coordinated effort to eliminate 9/11 Truth from YouTube.
That CNET admits these videos were removed as a direct result of Lieberman's staff's request is significant, as it was Lieberman who has been urging YouTube to take down "radicalizing" terrorist propaganda since May of this year to bring it into compliance with H.R. 1955, a bill that is currently awaiting approval by the Senate and which would criminalize all dissent of the government. That H.R. 1955 will specifically target the 9/11 Truth community is made obvious by a presentation made to the House Homeland Security Subcommittee in 2007 on "Terrorism and the Internet" which actually listed 9/11 Truth sites alongside terrorist jihad sites as examples of terrorist propaganda on the internet.
At first, YouTube executives made a show of standing up to Lieberman and his tyrannical dictates. "While we respect and understand his views, YouTube encourages free speech and defends everyone's right to express unpopular points of view," a message posted on YouTube said at the time.
Evidently that was mere PR and GooTube—bought out by Google last year—is now showing its roots as a spook-infested CIA front that functions as a virtual branch of government. Now with no warning and little fanfare, they have silently started implementing the government's agenda of taking 9/11 Truth and other forms of dissent off of the premiere video-sharing site.
All of this comes on the heels of numerous blows to free speech on the internet over the preceeding weeks. At the beginning of September, Comcast—America's second-largest internet provider—announced it would set a hard bandwidth limit on its customers in a move that will limit the ability of users to exchange large amounts of data. This of course sets the precedent for other providers to follow suit and it may not be long before the major internet providers are able to squeeze customers' ability to exchange information on the internet in the name of cutting down on bandwidth usage.
Also this month, reports emerged of a shadowy United Nations group known as "Q6/17" which is working with China and the NSA to develop a system to trace the source of all internet communications. Of course, as the linked article points out, such a feature would be useless as all serious hacking attempts these days rely on spoofed addresses in the first place and such traceback features are likely to be used by the very people they are designed to detect. But perhaps creating chaos on an internet that is increasingly becoming an overglorified wiretap is itself part of a much larger plan.
Indeed, the myriad ways in which the internet is under attack is too large to list in one article, but some more ideas of just how 9/11 Truth and free speech on the internet in general is being suppressed may be gleaned from the video below:
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
- T.S. Eliot
by Hereward Fenton
20 September, 2008
The conviction last week of Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika and five other men on terrorism charges was widely covered in the Australian news. We were given a colourful story of plots to blow up sports stadiums and oaths of loyalty to terrorist leaders, but there is another aspect to all this which we did not hear on the news: these convictions were the result of a police entrapment program. Members of the so-called terrorist group were coached by undercover police over months to make incriminating statements which were secretly recorded. The entire Crown case against the men is based on these recorded "confessions".
Benbrika's defence lawyers submitted that he was "a bumbling fool who thought it was possible to drive to Tasmania and could not lead ants to sugar". Indeed, none of the men has been found guilty of conspiring in or carrying out any specific crime - other than being members of a group which the Crown has deemed to be a "terrorist group".
Paradoxically, the group was closely monitored at all times by undercover police who collaborated with the accused in order to obtain incriminating statements. Even so, the police were not able to extract more than very generalised and vague statements from the accused.
Reminiscent of the science fiction film "Minority Report", the guilty are guilty not because of what they have done or even planned to do, but rather because of what they "might" do.
Here is an extract from one of the secretly recorded "confessions", presented as evidence of an "oath of loyalty to the organisation and to the cause":
AMER HADDARA (translated): What do I say?
ABDUL NACER BENBRIKA (translated): Yes, say I pledge you.
AMER HADDARA: I pledge you.
ABDUL NACER BENBRIKA: To obey Allah and his messenger.
AMER HADDARA: To obey Allah and his messenger.
ABDUL NACER BENBRIKA: And if I disobey Allah and his messenger, then there is no, I mean, I will disobey you.
AMER HADDARA: Then I will disobey you.
ABDUL NACER BENBRIKA: That's it, that's the one.
Such a pledge is common in terrorist cells around the world, according to terrorism expert David Wright-Neville from Monash University.
The following "evidence" was printed in The Australian:
In one conversation with an undercover police officer, Benbrika asked how much explosive would be needed to blow up a house or larger building. In another, with one of his followers, he talked about blasting buildings and doing something 'big'.
Here is a transcript of a police interview, recorded "at 4:00AM" on the day of the arrest:
DETECTIVE: If somebody asked you to undertake jihad, would you?
AMER HADDARA: If there is certain evidence that proves that it is allowed, then I would.
DETECTIVE: When is it allowed?
AMER HADDARA: It's allowed once the pressure is applied.
DETECTIVE: Do you think pressure is happening in this country at the moment?
AMER HADDARA: It is.
DETECTIVE: Are you happy enough to martyr yourself?
AMER HADDARA: I wish, as a wish I would love to go to paradise, and if, you know, if that's a way, if it's a way of doing so and there is such an avenue then I'll go down that path no problem.
DETECTIVE: What I would call a suicide bomber, the person who straps on a bomb vest, and runs into - well we'll use Iraq for example, that's my idea of a martyrdom operation. Would you go to that extent?
AMER HADDARA: If I had to and there was such extremes, yes.
The charges against the men were as follows:
1. Intentionally being a member of a terrorist organisation, knowing that it was a terrorist organisation.
2. Intentionally directing the activities of a terrorist organisation, knowing that it was a terrorist organisation
3. Intentionally providing resources to a terrorist organisation, knowing that it was a terrorist organisation
Note that none of these charges relate to any specific terrorist plot. There was no actual conspiracy. There was no planned attack. This point is lost in media coverage of the convictions. If the prosecutors had been able, they would have certainly tried to get convictions on charges of conspiracy - but they could not make this stick. Instead they were forced to press charges based on anti-terror laws which are pre-emptive in nature.
Despite the lack of legally admissibale evidence, the mainstream media continues to push the idea that there was an actual plot of some kind:
The Herald Sun also reveals today that taped conversations indicated Benbrika's terrorist organisation may have been planning an attack on polling day during the 2004 federal election.
Note the phrase "may have been". By the same token, Benbrika's "terrorist organisation" may have been planning to fly to the moon. This blatant media spin has nothing to do with either legal process or consensual reality. The scenario depicted above is an invention of the media. It is, by any reasonable definition, fiction.
Why is there not a massive protest movement against this corruption of the legal framework of our society? Why can't people seem to understand the threat? Perhaps it is because those being persecuted are foreign types wearing funny hats. Maybe it's because we are more interested in Britney Spears' current hair style. Either way, this blinkered and self centered ignorance will ultimately be our undoing, allowing our would-be rulers to dismantle the remaining protections we have, after which protest will be futile because we will already effectively be prisoners in the new slave state.
Tragically, there is no meaningful resistance against this outrageous assault on our liberty. Our only protest is in blogs read by a handful of people.
Thanks to Dani for this well crafted video.
By John Bursill - Truth Action Sydney
"Exposing the Delusion of 9/11 Down under!"
Well, just as the rest of the world does, Australia continues to step up to new
heights in our 9/11 Truth campaign, forcing the reality of the September 11 Attacks
into the light! Sydney Truth Action decided to put on three events for the
anniversary this year, back to back on the 11th, 12th and 13th of September. We are
determined to reach a bigger audience with the "truth to peace" message, aiming it
directly at the Peace Groups that have resisted us for so long.
Here is a brief summary of these three events..
Event 1 - Public Meeting - DELUSION 911 - September 11th, 2008
Wow, this really was a huge success drawing approximately 200 people to the heart of
the city on a week night. It was especially significant because there was basically
no support from any political, social or media group, except for NEXUS magazine and
one email from the NSW Greens which was sent out to the members as a "What's on"
event in the Green E-Brief. The Greens unfortunately, after pressure from above
withdrew their support for this information distribution, even though the
membership's interest is high and they have received all the relevant evidence over
the last two years, proving our case. This I feel was a form of censorship, which is
very disappointing indeed, as they have refused to alert people of a public meeting
by the "Grass Roots" who are trying to bring peace to the world?
Even though the meeting did not officially start until 7pm the crowd was arriving
from 6pm, many brimming with excitement that such an event was even possible. People
were very interested in the merchandise we had for sale especially Barrie Zwicker's
Book "The Towers of Deception" which sold out early on the second night! The mood
was what I would call, simply "electric" and the attendees had a thirst to learn all
they could, many wanting to start conversations with the speakers while they were
speaking. This is probably a bad idea, lol.for those that did such...
Firstly I made a brief introduction and a short speech about the inadequacy of the
"Official 9/11 Myth" and exposed the "9/11 Omission Commission" Report for what it
is, a propaganda piece designed to keep the complicit MSM happy. I finished my
presentation with a great quote from William O. Douglas an American Supreme Court
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances,
there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such
twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air --however slight--lest
we become unwitting victims of the darkness." Justice William O. Douglas
I then welcomed Pastor Al Person to give a remembrance service for the fallen and to
read the names of the ten Australian's that died on that terrible day, in September
of 2001. Al said a prayer and we took a moment of silence to reflect on why this
fight is so important to us all!
The next speaker to the podium was Barrister James O'Neill from Queensland who had
travelled down to Sydney for the Trilogy. He alerted a dumbfounded audience that we
have actually lost more rights than our American friends and it was only the
reluctance of our government to use it unprecedented powers that had maintained the
façade of a Democracy. James was very well received indeed and really shocked the
gathering to the real relevance of the 9/11 Events to the Australian people!
Our next very distinguished speaker was a Doctor of Architecture and Incorporated
Engineer, Dr David Leifer who is an out spoken member of www.AE911Truth.org . He
gave a wonderful nuts and bolts presentation about the improbable collapse of WTC 1.
He concluded it must have been brought down using added energy and it was provably
impossible to reconcile what is seen with a "gravity driven collapse".
We had a brief intermission and the Sydney Truth Action Team was simply outstanding
providing tea, coffee, drinks and information to the large enthusiastic crowd.
After the break we heard from documentary filmmaker and former BBC journalist
Gillian Norman. Her talk, "MindWars" helped to explain why so many people still
cannot accept 9/11 truth, even after 7 years of powerful, irrefutable evidence that
it was a false flag attack. Gillian outlined the development of mind control
techniques that were first applied to individuals, then to cults, and now, for the
first time in history with the 9/11 psychological operation, we have seen MindWars
applied to an entire nation.
Gillian made a passionate plea to break the trance of deception, to recognize how
Australia has been drawn into genocidal wars on the basis of a false pretext and to
take a bold stand for truth and justice. Once again Gillian was very popular with
the crowd, and received a standing ovation as her heartfelt speech stuck directly at
the dark forces that attempt to control the "Group Mind" that is allowing this
dangerous rise of tyranny throughout the world!
Some of the work the military had done during experiments that Gillian talked of,
seemed improbable to me, in particular telekinesis! She assures me there is evidence
of this, but I remain sceptical at this time. She will modify her speech in future
to prevent any controversy on this issue.Gillian had also travelled from sunny
Queensland to attend at her own expense, in fact all the speakers were self funded
for which we were all very grateful, thank you!
Now we had a little change of pace from the mind games to the real physical
resistance being shown by the working class people of Australia. Kevin Bracken a
Victorian Union Secretary (organizer) showed us what can be achieved through
patience and determination! He read out a motion he had passed firstly by The
Victorian State Branch of the Maritime Union of Australia and then by the oldest and
second largest affiliation of unions in Australia; the Victorian Trades Hall
That final amended motion reads as follows;
"That this meeting of the Victorian Trades Hall Council delegates calls for a
thorough, independent enquiry into the tragic terrorist attacks of September 11,
2001, in the U.S.
The events of that day have been used to start pre-emptive wars, attack
civil liberties and legal principles that have been the cornerstone of
civilized communities for many decades.
There is a legitimate view that the way we view the world after
September 11 2001 has been affected dramatically and therefore a proper
investigation into the events around that day is justified and deserves
This is simply an outstanding achievement and it has inspired me to pursue this
avenue further, as I personally have already received the support of my Secretary
and President of the Australian Licensed Aircraft Engineers Association and will put
a motion to our executives meeting at the next opportunity!
Well we really left the best to last, you may say, because if you are not aware Dr
Steven Jones and Kevin Ryan of the Scholars for Truth and Justice www.STJ911.org
have their right hand man living in Perth, Australia! His name is Dr Frank Legge and
he is a doctor of Chemistry and has been directly involved in many of the peer
reviewed and published works released by the "Journal of 9/11 Studies"
www.journalof911studies.com . Frank showed us how simple it is to dispel the
"Official NIST Explanation of the Three WTC Collapses" using basic logic and actual
scientific evidence gathered at ground zero! This is a method of scientific analysis
of which NIST is obviously completely unaware???
As usual the staff at the event were completely amazed at the evidence we produced
and are all now 9/11 Truther's!
Video of September 11th Action and "Delusion 911" Public Meeting - Thanks to Erik my
right hand man!
Event 2 - ShadowPlay Preview Screening - Panel Discussion - September 12th, 2008
Unfortunately the film "ShadowPlay" was not provided in DVD form and the hard drive
Gillian Norman brought with the film on it was corrupted. We did get to see the
first 20 minutes or so and it is looking great. We unfortunately had to act in the
interest of 9/11 Truth a show a film, a guest provided us with a copy of "Zero"
which we showed instead. We Sydney Truth Action would like to thank the Italian film
makers for this excellent production and would remind them that the event ran at a
considerable loss. We did encourage all to by a copy of this film!
After this film was shown we continued with a panel discussion of the film and of
the 9/11 Truth Issue in general, with the following panel.
Dr Frank Legge - Chemist www.STJ911Truth.org
Dr David Leifer - Architect www.AE911Truth.org
James O'Neil - Barrister at law
Gillian Norman - Film Maker/Journalist
John Bursill - Licensed Aircraft Engineer www.AE911Truth.org
This discussion was moderated by Hereward Fenton web master of www.911oz.com where
you will find the live podcast of this discussion. This is well worth a listen as we
get stuck into a debate about the divisive "Pentagon". Frank Legge and I make a
strong argument that this debate is simply a waste of time, but many disagree as
seen in Zero and from the rest of the panel who were seemingly supported by the
audience. There is a regular pod cast provided by Truth News Radio Australia
www.truthnews.com.au , the hosts being Joshua Jackson and Hereward Fenton. I am also
a regular guest on this podcast and recommend it.
It was interesting that we saw a famous Australian Comedian at this event, "Garry
Who" and I was also pleasantly surprised to see one of the principle organizers of
the Sydney "Stop the War Coalition"! These were both firsts for us and both steps in
the right direction, well done Sydney!
Event 3 - Sydney Truth Action - Fundraiser - 13th of September, 2008
Well this was simply a chance for us all to let our hair down and make a little
money. Unfortunately it was not well supported, as I think we had basically worn our
audience out! I suppose we will view that as a learning experience and pre sell this
type of event in the future. All that went had an excellent time and all said the
food and entertainment was outstanding! A stand alone fundraising event is planned
for early next year.
Thank you to all that helped make these events possible and those that donated money
to pay the bills! I would especially like to thank the Sydney Truth Action Crew, who
got the word out on the street and sold the drinks and merchandise etc, well done!
Other News from Down Under
As a way of rounding up this article regarding the 9/11 Anniversary events, I would
like to congratulate all that carried out "Civil Informationing" and 9/11 truth
protests on the 11th throughout Australia as part of "Eleventh Day of Every Month
Campaign" www.truthaction.org and especially the Perth 9/11 Truth Group
http://9-11.meetup.com/332/ who put nearly 30 activists on the ground in a simply
awesome effort! I think I should single out Paul Blackburn, the Perth Organiser for
his unbelievable ability to grow this group, well done Blackie!
Sydney Truth Action carried out another protest at the Australian Broadcasting
Corporation ABC on the 11th demanding "proper investigative journalism" after they
showed the BBC hit piece "The Third Tower" on Monday the 8th of September! It is
interesting that the scheduled rerun of this program was "pulled"(did Larry give
them a call?!...lol) after our protest and many, many letters condemning the ABC for
its low standards. This is especially true as it was used as a "Four Corners" piece,
Australia's premier award wining investigative one hour news show. You may view the
"open letters" to Four Corners if you select "opinion" at top of the home page
www.abc.net.au/fourcorners , you will need to go back a few pages as another
interesting show about our treatment of refugees was shown on this weeks show.
I would like to take this opportunity to wish the many Australians attending the
events in NYC a safe trip, especially Maria and Chihaya who are two of our most
devoted "die hard" 9/11 Activists, as you can tell by this pilgrimage to Ground
Thank you also these great sites for getting the word out about Australian activism;
Kindest regards John Bursill
Truth Action Sydney
By David Ray Griffin
9 September 2008
Much of America's foreign policy since 9/11 has been based on the assumption that it was attacked by Muslims on that day. This assumption was used, most prominently, to justify the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. It is now widely agreed that the use of 9/11 as a basis for attacking Iraq was illegitimate: none of the hijackers were Iraqis, there was no working relation between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, and Iraq was not behind the anthrax attacks. But it is still widely believed that the US attack on Afghanistan was justified. For example, the New York Times, while referring to the US attack on Iraq as a "war of choice," calls the battle in Afghanistan a "war of necessity." Time magazine has dubbed it "the right war." And Barack Obama says that one reason to wind down our involvement in Iraq is to have the troops and resources to "go after the people in Afghanistan who actually attacked us on 9/11."
The assumption that America was attacked by Muslims on 9/11 also lies behind the widespread perception of Islam as an inherently violent religion and therefore of Muslims as guilty until proven innocent. This perception surely contributed to attempts to portray Obama as a Muslim, which was lampooned by a controversial cartoon on the July 21, 2008, cover of The New Yorker.
As could be illustrated by reference to many other post-9/11 developments, including as spying, torture, extraordinary rendition, military tribunals, America's new doctrine of preemptive war, and its enormous increase in military spending, the assumption that the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked by Muslim hijackers has had enormous negative consequences for both international and domestic issues.1
Is it conceivable that this assumption might be false? Insofar as Americans and Canadians would say "No," they would express their belief that this assumption is not merely an "assumption" but is instead based on strong evidence. When actually examined, however, the proffered evidence turns out to be remarkably weak. I will illustrate this point by means of 16 questions.
1. Were Mohamed Atta and the Other Hijackers Devout Muslims?
The picture of the hijackers conveyed by the 9/11 Commission is that they were devout Muslims. Mohamed Atta, considered the ringleader, was said to have become very religious, even "fanatically so."2 Being devout Muslims, they could be portrayed as ready to meet their Maker---as a "cadre of trained operatives willing to die."3
But this portrayal is contradicted by various newspaper stories. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Atta and other hijackers had made "at least six trips" to Las Vegas, where they had "engaged in some decidedly un-Islamic sampling of prohibited pleasures." These activities were "un-Islamic" because, as the head of the Islamic Foundation of Nevada pointed out: "True Muslims don't drink, don't gamble, don't go to strip clubs."4
One might, to be sure, rationalize this behavior by supposing that these were momentary lapses and that, as 9/11 approached, these young Muslims had repented and prepared for heaven. But in the days just before 9/11, Atta and others were reported to be drinking heavily, cavorting with lap dancers, and bringing call girls to their rooms. Temple University Professor Mahmoud Ayoub said: "It is incomprehensible that a person could drink and go to a strip bar one night, then kill themselves the next day in the name of Islam. . . . Something here does not add up."5
In spite of the fact that these activities were reported by mainstream newspapers and even the Wall Street Journal editorial page,6 the 9/11 Commission wrote as if these reports did not exist, saying: "we have seen no credible evidence explaining why, on [some occasions], the operatives flew to or met in Las Vegas."7
2. Do Authorities Have Hard Evidence of Osama bin Laden's Responsibility for 9/11?
Whatever be the truth about the devoutness of the hijackers, one might reply, there is certainly no doubt about the fact that they were acting under the guidance of Osama bin Laden. The attack on Afghanistan was based on the claim that bin Laden was behind the attacks, and the 9/11 Commission's report was written as if there were no question about this claim. But neither the Bush administration nor the Commission provided any proof for it.
Two weeks after 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell, speaking to Tim Russert on "Meet the Press," said he expected "in the near future . . . to put out . . . a document that will describe quite clearly the evidence that we have linking [bin Laden] to this attack."8 But at a press conference with President Bush the next morning, Powell reversed himself, saying that although the government had information that left no question of bin Laden's responsibility, "most of it is classified."9 According to Seymour Hersh, citing officials from both the CIA and the Department of Justice, the real reason for the reversal was a "lack of solid information."10
That same week, Bush had demanded that the Taliban turn over bin Laden. But the Taliban, reported CNN, "refus[ed] to hand over bin Laden without proof or evidence that he was involved in last week's attacks on the United States." The Bush administration, saying "[t]here is already an indictment of Osama bin Laden" [for the attacks in Tanzania, Kenya, and elsewhere]," rejected the demand for evidence with regard to 9/11.11
The task of providing such evidence was taken up by British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who on October 4 made public a document entitled "Responsibility for the Terrorist Atrocities in the United States." Listing "clear conclusions reached by the government," it stated: "Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, the terrorist network which he heads, planned and carried out the atrocities on 11 September 2001."12
Blair's report, however, began by saying: "This document does not purport to provide a prosecutable case against Osama Bin Laden in a court of law." This weakness was noted the next day by the BBC, which said: "There is no direct evidence in the public domain linking Osama Bin Laden to the 11 September attacks. At best the evidence is circumstantial."13
After the US had attacked Afghanistan, a senior Taliban official said: "We have asked for proof of Osama's involvement, but they have refused. Why?"14 The answer to this question may be suggested by the fact that, to this day, the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorist" webpage on bin Laden, while listing him as wanted for bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, makes no mention of 9/11.15
When the FBI's chief of investigative publicity was asked why not, he replied: "The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden's Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11."16
It is often claimed that bin Laden's guilt is proved by a video, reportedly found by US intelligence officers in Afghanistan in November 2001, in which bin Laden appears to report having planned the attacks. But critics, pointing out various problems with this "confession video," have called it a fake.17 General Hamid Gul, a former head of Pakistan's ISI, said: "I think there is an Osama Bin Laden look-alike."18 Actually, the man in the video is not even much of a look-alike, being heavier and darker than bin Laden, having a broader nose, wearing jewelry, and writing with his right hand.19 The FBI, in any case, obviously does not consider this video hard evidence of bin Laden's responsibility for 9/11.
What about the 9/11 Commission? I mentioned earlier that it gave the impression of having had solid evidence of bin Laden's guilt. But Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, the Commission's co-chairs, undermined this impression in their follow-up book subtitled "the inside story of the 9/11 Commission."20
Whenever the Commission had cited evidence for bin Ladin's responsibility, the note in the back of the book always referred to CIA-provided information that had (presumably) been elicited during interrogations of al-Qaeda operatives. By far the most important of these operatives was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), described as the "mastermind" of the 9/11 attacks. The Commission, for example, wrote:
Bin Ladin . . . finally decided to give the green light for the 9/11 operation sometime in late 1998 or early 1999. . . . Bin Ladin also soon selected four individuals to serve as suicide operatives. . . . Atta---whom Bin Ladin chose to lead the group---met with Bin Ladin several times to receive additional instructions, including a preliminary list of approved targets: the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the U.S. Capitol.21
The note for each of these statements says "interrogation of KSM."22
Kean and Hamilton, however, reported that they had no success in "obtaining access to star witnesses in custody . . . , most notably Khalid Sheikh Mohammed."23 Besides not being allowed to interview these witnesses, they were not permitted to observe the interrogations through one-way glass or even to talk to the interrogators.24 Therefore, they complained: "We . . . had no way of evaluating the credibility of detainee information. How could we tell if someone such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed . . . was telling us the truth?"25
An NBC "deep background" report in 2008 pointed out an additional problem: KSM and the other al-Qaeda leaders had been subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques," i.e., torture, and it is now widely acknowledged that statements elicited by torture lack credibility. "At least four of the operatives whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report," this NBC report pointed out, "have claimed that they told interrogators critical information as a way to stop being "-tortured.'" NBC then quoted Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, as saying: "Most people look at the 9/11 Commission Report as a trusted historical document. If their conclusions were supported by information gained from torture, . . . their conclusions are suspect."26
Accordingly, neither the White House, the British government, the FBI, nor the 9/11 Commission has provided solid evidence that Osama bin Laden was behind 9/11.
3. Was Evidence of Muslim Hijackers Provided by Phone Calls from the Airliners?
Nevertheless, many readers may respond, there can be no doubt that the airplanes were taken over by al-Qaeda hijackers, because their presence and actions on the planes were reported on phone calls by passengers and flight attendants, with cell phone calls playing an especially prominent role.
The most famous of the reported calls were from CNN commentator Barbara Olson to her husband, US Solicitor General Ted Olson. According to CNN, he reported that his wife had "called him twice on a cell phone from American Airlines Flight 77," saying that "all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by . . . hijackers [armed with] knives and cardboard cutters."27
Although these reported calls, as summarized by Ted Olson, did not describe the hijackers so as to suggest that they were members of al-Qaeda, such descriptions were supplied by calls from other flights, especially United 93, from which about a dozen cell phone calls were reportedly received before it crashed in Pennsylvania. According to a Washington Post story of September 13,
[P]assenger Jeremy Glick used a cell phone to tell his wife, Lyzbeth, . . . that the Boeing 757's cockpit had been taken over by three Middle Eastern-looking men. . . . The terrorists, wearing red headbands, had ordered the pilots, flight attendants and passengers to the rear of the plane.28
A story about a "cellular phone conversation" between flight attendant Sandra Bradshaw and her husband gave this report:
She said the plane had been taken over by three men with knives. She had gotten a close look at one of the hijackers. . . . "He had an Islamic look," she told her husband.29
From these calls, therefore, the public was informed that the hijackers looked Middle Eastern and even Islamic.
Still more specific information was reportedly conveyed during a 12-minute cell phone call from flight attendant Amy Sweeney on American Flight 11, which was to crash into the North Tower of the World Trade Center.30 After reaching American Airlines employee Michael Woodward and telling him that men of "Middle Eastern descent" had hijacked her flight, she then gave him their seat numbers, from which he was able to learn the identity of Mohamed Atta and two other hijackers.31 Amy Sweeney's call was critical, ABC News explained, because without it "the plane might have crashed with no one certain the man in charge was tied to al Qaeda."32
There was, however, a big problem with these reported calls: Given the technology available in 2001, cell phone calls from airliners at altitudes of more than a few thousand feet, especially calls lasting more than a few seconds, were not possible, and yet these calls, some of which reportedly lasted a minute or more, reportedly occurred when the planes were above 30,000 or even 40,000 feet. This problem was explained by some credible people, including scientist A.K. Dewdney, who for many years had written a column for Scientific American.33
Although some defenders of the official account, such as Popular Mechanics, have disputed the contention that high-altitude calls from airliners were impossible,34 the fact is that the FBI, after having at first supported the claims that such calls were made, withdrew this support a few years later.
With regard to the reported 12-minute call from Amy Sweeney to Michael Woodward, an affidavit signed by FBI agent James Lechner and dated September 12 (2001) stated that, according to Woodward, Sweeney had been "using a cellular telephone."35 But when the 9/11 Commission discussed this call in its Report, which appeared in July 2004, it declared that Sweeney had used an onboard phone.36
Behind that change was an implausible claim made by the FBI earlier in 2004: Although Woodward had failed to mention this when FBI agent Lechner interviewed him on 9/11, he had repeated Sweeney's call verbatim to a colleague in his office, who had in turn repeated it to another colleague at American headquarters in Dallas, who had recorded it; and this recording---which was discovered only in 2004---indicated that Sweeney had used a passenger-seat phone, thanks to "an AirFone card, given to her by another flight attendant."37
This claim is implausible because, if this relayed recording had really been made on 9/11, we cannot believe that Woodward would have failed to mention it to FBI agent Lechner later that same day. While Lechner was taking notes, Woodward would surely have said: "You don't need to rely on my memory. There is a recording of a word-for-word repetition of Sweeney's statements down in Dallas." It is also implausible that Woodward, having repeated Sweeney's statement that she had used "an AirFone card, given to her by another flight attendant," would have told Lechner, as the latter's affidavit says, that Sweeney had been "using a cellular telephone."
Lechner's affidavit shows that the FBI at first supported the claim that Sweeney had made a 12-minute cell phone call from a high-altitude airliner. Does not the FBI's change of story, after its first version had been shown to be technologically impossible, create the suspicion that the entire story was a fabrication?
This suspicion is reinforced by the FBI's change of story in relation to United Flight 93. Although we were originally told that this flight had been the source of about a dozen cell phone calls, some of them when the plane was above 40,000 feet, the FBI gave a very different report at the 2006 trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker. The FBI spokesman said: "13 of the terrified passengers and crew members made 35 air phone calls and two cell phone calls."38 Instead of there having been about a dozen cell phone calls from Flight 93, the FBI declared in 2005, there were really only two.
Why were two calls still said to have been possible? They were reportedly made at 9:58, when the plane was reportedly down to 5,000 feet.39 Although that was still pretty high for successful cell phone calls in 2001, these calls, unlike calls from 30,000 feet or higher, would have been at least arguably possible.
If the truth of the FBI's new account is assumed, how can one explain the fact that so many people had reported receiving cell phone calls? In most cases, it seems, these people had been told by the callers that they were using cell phones. For example, a Newsweek story about United 93 said: "Elizabeth Wainio, 27, was speaking to her stepmother in Maryland. Another passenger, she explains, had loaned her a cell phone and told her to call her family."40 In such cases, we might assume that the people receiving the calls had simply mis-heard, or mis-remembered, what they had been told. But this would mean positing that about a dozen people had made the same mistake.
An even more serious difficulty is presented by the case of Deena Burnett, who said that she had received three to five calls from her husband, Tom Burnett. She knew he was using his cell phone, she reported to the FBI that very day and then to the press and in a book, because she had recognized his cell phone number on her phone's Caller ID.41 We cannot suppose her to have been mistaken about this. We also, surely, cannot accuse her of lying.
Therefore, if we accept the FBI's report, according to which Tom Burnett did not make any cell phone calls from Flight 93, we can only conclude that the calls were faked---that Deena Burnett was duped. Although this suggestion may at first sight seem outlandish, there are three facts that, taken together, show it to be more probable than any of the alternatives.
First, voice morphing technology was sufficiently advanced at that time to make faking the calls feasible. A 1999 Washington Post article described demonstrations in which the voices of two generals, Colin Powell and Carl Steiner, were heard saying things they had never said.42
Second, there are devices with which you can fake someone's telephone number, so that it will show up on the recipient's Caller ID.43
Third, the conclusion that the person who called Deena Burnett was not her husband is suggested by various features of the calls. For example, when Deena told the caller that "the kids" were asking to talk to him, he said: "Tell them I'll talk to them later." This was 20 minutes after Tom had purportedly realized that the hijackers were on a suicide mission, planning to "crash this plane into the ground," and 10 minutes after he and other passengers had allegedly decided that as soon as they were "over a rural area" they must try to gain control of the plane. Also, the hijackers had reportedly already killed one person.44 Given all this, the real Tom Burnett would have known that he would likely die, one way or another, in the next few minutes. Is it believable that, rather than taking this probably last opportunity to speak to his children, he would say that he would "talk to them later"? Is it not more likely that "Tom" made this statement to avoid revealing that he knew nothing about "the kids," perhaps not even their names?
Further evidence that the calls were faked is provided by timing problems in some of them. According to the 9/11 Commission, Flight 93 crashed at 10:03 as a result of the passenger revolt, which began at 9:57. However, according to Lyzbeth Glick's account of the aforementioned cell phone call from her husband, Jeremy Glick, she told him about the collapse of the South Tower, and that did not occur until 9:59, two minutes after the alleged revolt had started. After that, she reported, their conversation continued for several more minutes before he told her that the passengers were taking a vote about whether to attack. According to Lyzbeth Glick's account, therefore, the revolt was only beginning by 10:03, when the plane (according to the official account) was crashing.45
A timing problem also occurred in the aforementioned call from flight attendant Amy Sweeney. While she was describing the hijackers, according to the FBI's account of her call, they stormed and took control of the cockpit.46 However, although the hijacking of Flight 11 "began at 8:14 or shortly thereafter," the 9/11 Commission said, Sweeney's call did not go through until 8:25.47 Her alleged call, in other words, described the hijacking as beginning over 11 minutes after it, according to the official timeline, had been successfully carried out.
Multiple lines of evidence, therefore, imply that the cell phone calls were faked. This fact has vast implications, because it implies that all the reported calls from the planes, including those from onboard phones, were faked. Why? Because if the planes had really been taken over in surprise hijackings, no one would have been ready to make fake cell phone calls.
Moreover, the FBI, besides implying, most clearly in the case of Deena Burnett, that the phone calls reporting the hijackings had been faked, comes right out and says, in its report about calls from Flight 77, that no calls from Barbara Olson occurred. It does mention her. But besides attributing only one call to her, not two, the FBI report refers to it as an "unconnected call," which (of course) lasted "0 seconds."48 In 2006, in other words, the FBI, which is part of the Department of Justice, implied that the story told by the DOJ's former solicitor general was untrue. Although not mentioned by the press, this was an astounding development.
This FBI report leaves only two possible explanations for Ted Olson's story: Either he made it up or else he, like Deena Burnett and several others, was duped. In either case, the story about Barbara Olson's calls, with their reports of hijackers taking over Flight 77, was based on deception.
The opening section of The 9/11 Commission Report is entitled "Inside the Four Flights." The information contained in this section is based almost entirely on the reported phone calls. But if the reported calls were faked, we have no idea what happened inside these planes. Insofar as the idea that the planes were taken over by hijackers who looked "Middle Eastern," even "Islamic," has been based on the reported calls, this idea is groundless.
4. Was the Presence of Hijackers Proved by a Radio Transmission "from American 11"?
It might be objected, in reply, that this is not true, because we know that American Flight 11, at least, was hijacked, thanks to a radio transmission in which the voice of one of its hijackers is heard. According to the 9/11 Commission, the air traffic controller for this flight heard a radio transmission at 8:25 AM in which someone---widely assumed to be Mohamed Atta---told the passengers: "We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you'll be okay. We are returning to the airport." After quoting this transmission, the Commission wrote: "The controller told us that he then knew it was a hijacking."49 Was this transmission not indeed proof that Flight 11 had been hijacked?
It might provide such proof if we knew that, as the Commission claimed, the "transmission came from American 11."50 But we do not. According to the FAA's "Summary of Air Traffic Hijack Events," published September 17, 2001, the transmission was "from an unknown origin."51 Bill Peacock, the FAA's air traffic director, said: "We didn't know where the transmission came from."52 The Commission's claim that it came from American 11 was merely an inference. The transmission could have come from the same room from which the calls to Deena Burnett originated.
Therefore, the alleged radio transmission from Flight 11, like the alleged phone calls from the planes, provides no evidence that the planes were taken over by al-Qaeda hijackers.
5. Did Passports and a Headband Provide Evidence that al-Qaeda Operatives Were on the Flights?
However, the government's case for al-Qaeda hijackers on also rested in part on claims that passports and a headband belonging to al-Qaeda operatives were found at the crash sites. But these claims are patently absurd.
A week after the attacks, the FBI reported that a search of the streets after the destruction of the World Trade Center had discovered the passport of one of the Flight 11 hijackers, Satam al-Suqami.53 But this claim did not pass the giggle test. "[T]he idea that [this] passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged," wrote one British reporter, "would [test] the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism."54
By 2004, when the 9/11 Commission was discussing the alleged discovery of this passport, the story had been modified to say that "a passer-by picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed."55 So, rather than needing to survive the collapse of the North Tower, the passport merely needed to escape from the plane's cabin, avoid being destroyed or even singed by the instantaneous jet-fuel fire, and then escape from the building so that it could fall to the ground! Equally absurd is the claim that the passport of Ziad Jarrah, the alleged pilot of Flight 93, was found at this plane's crash site in Pennsylvania.56 This passport was reportedly found on the ground even though there was virtually nothing at the site to indicate that an airliner had crashed there. The reason for this absence of wreckage, we were told, was that the plane had been headed downward at 580 miles per hour and, when it hit the spongy Pennsylvania soil, buried itself deep in the ground. New York Times journalist Jere Longman, surely repeating what he had been told by authorities, wrote: "The fuselage accordioned on itself more than thirty feet into the porous, backfilled ground. It was as if a marble had been dropped into water."57 So, we are to believe, just before the plane buried itself in the earth, Jarrah's passport escaped from the cockpit and landed on the ground. Did Jarrah, going 580 miles per hour, have the window open?58 Also found on the ground, according to the government's evidence presented to the Moussaoui trial, was a red headband.59 This was considered evidence that al-Qaeda hijackers were on Flight 93 because they were, according to some of the phone calls, wearing red headbands. But besides being absurd for the same reason as was the claim about Jarrah's passport, this claim about the headband was problematic for another reason. Former CIA agent Milt Bearden, who helped train the Mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan, has pointed out that it would have been very unlikely that members of al-Qaeda would have worn such headbands:
[The red headband] is a uniquely Shi'a Muslim adornment. It is something that dates back to the formation of the Shi'a sect. . . . t represents the preparation of he who wears this red headband to sacrifice his life, to murder himself for the cause. Sunnis are by and large most of the people following Osama bin Laden [and they] do not do this.60
We learned shortly after the invasion of Iraq that some people in the US government did not know the difference between Shi'a and Sunni Muslims. Did such people decide that the hijackers would be described as wearing red headbands?
6. Did the Information in Atta's Luggage Prove the Responsibility of al-Qaeda Operatives?
I come now to the evidence that is said to provide the strongest proof that the planes had been hijacked by Mohamed Atta and other members of al-Qaeda. This evidence was reportedly found in two pieces of Atta's luggage that were discovered inside the Boston airport after the attacks. The luggage was there, we were told, because although Atta was already in Boston on September 10, he and another al-Qaeda operative, Abdul al-Omari, rented a blue Nissan and drove up to Portland, Maine, and stayed overnight. They caught a commuter flight back to Boston early the next morning in time to get on American Flight 11, but Atta's luggage did not make it.
This luggage, according to the FBI affidavit signed by James Lechner, contained much incriminating material, including a handheld flight computer, flight simulator manuals, two videotapes about Boeing aircraft, a slide-rule flight calculator, a copy of the Koran, and Atta's last will and testament.61 This material was widely taken as proof that al-Qaeda and hence Osama bin Laden were behind the 9/11 attacks.
When closely examined, however, the Atta-to-Portland story loses all credibility.
One problem is the very idea that Atta would have planned to take all these things in baggage that was to be transferred to Flight 11. What good would a flight computer and other flying aids do inside a suitcase in the plane's luggage compartment? Why would he have planned to take his will on a plane he planned to crash into the World Trade Center?
A second problem involves the question of why Atta's luggage did not get transferred onto Flight 11. According to an Associated Press story that appeared four days after 9/11, Atta's flight "arrived at Logan . . . just in time for him to connect with American Airlines flight 11 to Los Angeles, but too late for his luggage to be loaded."62 The 9/11 Commission had at one time evidently planned to endorse this claim.63 But when The 9/11 Commission Report appeared, it said: "Atta and Omari arrived in Boston at 6:45" and then "checked in and boarded American Airlines Flight 11," which was "scheduled to depart at 7:45."64 By thus admitting that there was almost a full hour for the luggage to be transferred to Flight 11, the Commission was left with no explanation as to why it was not.
Still another problem with the Atta-to-Portland story was the question why he would have taken this trip. If the commuter flight had been late, Atta, being the ringleader of the hijackers as well as the intended pilot for Flight 11, would have had to call off the whole operation, which he had reportedly been planning for two years. The 9/11 Commission, like the FBI before it, admitted that it had no answer to this question.65
The fourth and biggest problem with the story, however, is that it did not appear until September 16, five days after 9/11, following the collapse of an earlier story.
According to news reports immediately after 9/11, the incriminating materials, rather than being found in Atta's luggage inside the airport, were found in a white Mitsubishi, which Atta had left in the Boston airport parking lot. Two hijackers did drive a blue Nissan to Portland and then take the commuter flight back to Boston the next morning, but their names were Adnan and Ameer Bukhari.66 This story fell apart on the afternoon of September 13, when it was discovered that the Bukharis, to whom authorities had reportedly been led by material in the Nissan at the Portland Jetport, had not died on 9/11: Adnan was still alive and Ameer had died the year before.67
The next day, September 14, an Associated Press story said that it was Atta and a companion who had driven the blue Nissan to Portland, stayed overnight, and then taken the commuter flight back to Boston. The incriminating materials, however, were still said to have been found in a car in the Boston airport, which was now said to have been rented by "additional suspects."68 Finally, on September 16, a Washington Post story, besides saying that the Nissan had been taken to Portland by Atta and al-Omari, specified that the incriminating material had been found in Atta's luggage inside the Boston airport.69
Given this history of the Atta-to-Portland story, how can we avoid the conclusion that it was a fabrication?
7. Were al-Qaeda Operatives Captured on Airport Security Videos?
Still another type of evidence for the claim that al-Qaeda operatives were on the planes consisted of frames from videos, purportedly taken by airport security cameras, said to show hijackers checking into airports. Shortly after the attacks, for example, photos showing Atta and al-Omari at an airport "were flashed round the world."70 However, although it was widely assumed that these photos were from the airport at Boston, they were really from the airport at Portland. No photos showing Atta or any of the other alleged hijackers at Boston's Logan Airport were ever produced. We at best have photographic evidence that Atta and al-Omari were at the Portland airport.
Moreover, in light of the fact that the story of Atta and al-Omari going to Portland was apparently a late invention, we might expect the photographic evidence that they were at the Portland Jetport on the morning of September 11 to be problematic. And indeed it is. It shows Atta and Omari without either jackets or ties on, whereas the Portland ticket agent said that they had been wearing jackets and ties.71 Also, a photo showing Atta and al-Omari passing through the security checkpoint is marked both 05:45 and 05:53.72
Another airport video was distributed on the day in 2004 that The 9/11 Commission Report was published. The Associated Press, using a frame from it as corroboration of the official story, provided this caption:
Hijacker Khalid al-Mihdhar . . . passes through the security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport in Chantilly, Va., Sept. 11 2001, just hours before American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon in this image from a surveillance video.73
However, as Rowland Morgan and Ian Henshall have pointed out,
a normal security video has time and date burned into the integral video image by proprietary equipment according to an authenticated pattern, along with camera identification and the location that the camera covered. The video released in 2004 contained no such data.74
The Associated Press notwithstanding, therefore, this video contains no evidence that it was taken at Dulles on September 11.
Another problem with this so-called Dulles video is that, although one of the men on it was identified by the 9/11 Commission as Hani Hanjour,75 he "does not remotely resemble Hanjour." Whereas Hanjour was thin and had a receding hairline (as shown by a photo taken six days before 9/11), the man in the video had a somewhat muscular build and a full head of hair, with no receding hairline.76
In sum: Video proof that the named hijackers checked into airports on 9/11 is nonexistent. Besides the fact that the videos purportedly showing hijackers for Flights 11 and 77 reek of inauthenticity, there are no videos even purportedly showing the hijackers for the other two flights. If these 19 men had really checked into the Boston and Dulles airports that day, there should be authentic security videos to prove this.
8. Were the Names of the "Hijackers" on the Passenger Manifests?
What about the passenger manifests, which list all the passengers on the flights? If the alleged hijackers purchased tickets and boarded the flights, their names would have been on the manifests for these flights. And we were told that they were. According to counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke, the FBI told him at about 10:00 that morning that it recognized the names of some al-Qaeda operatives on passenger manifests it had received from the airlines.77 As to how the FBI itself acquired its list, Robert Bonner, the head of Customs and Border Protection, said to the 9/11 Commission in 2004:
On the morning of 9/11, through an evaluation of data related to the passenger manifest for the four terrorist hijacked aircraft, Customs Office of Intelligence was able to identify the likely terrorist hijackers. Within 45 minutes of the attacks, Customs forwarded the passenger lists with the names of the victims and 19 probable hijackers to the FBI and the intelligence community.78
Under questioning, Bonner added:
We were able to pull from the airlines the passenger manifest for each of the four flights. We ran the manifest through [our lookout] system. . . . y 11:00 AM, I'd seen a sheet that essentially identified the 19 probable hijackers. And in fact, they turned out to be, based upon further follow-up in detailed investigation, to be the 19.79
Bonner's statement, however, is doubly problematic. In the first place, the initial FBI list, as reported by CNN on September 13 and 14, contained only 18 names.80 Why would that be if 19 men had already been identified on 9/11?
Second, several of the names on the FBI's first list, having quickly become problematic, were replaced by other names. For example, the previously discussed men named Bukhari, thought to be brothers, were replaced on American 11's list of hijackers by brothers named Waleed and Wail al-Shehri. Two other replacements for this flight were Satam al-Suqami, whose passport was allegedly found at Ground Zero, and Abdul al-Omari, who allegedly went to Portland with Atta the day before 9/11. Also, the initial list for American 77 did not include the name of Hani Hanjour, who would later be called the pilot of this flight. Rather, it contained a name that, after being read aloud by a CNN correspondent, was transcribed "Mosear Caned."81 All in all, the final list of 19 hijackers contained six names that were not on the original list of 18---a fact that contradicts Bonner's claim that by 11:00 AM on 9/11 his agency had identified 19 probable hijackers who, in fact, "turned out to be. . . the 19."
These replacements to the initial list also undermine the claim that Amy Sweeney, by giving the seat numbers of three of the hijackers to Michael Woodward of American Airlines, allowed him to identify Atta and two others. This second claim is impossible because the two others were Abdul al-Omari and Satam al-Suqami,82 and they were replacements for two men on the original list---who, like Adnan Bukhari, turned up alive after 9/11.83 Woodward could not possibly have identified men who were not added to the list until several days later.84
For all these reasons, the claim that the names of the 19 alleged hijackers were on the airlines' passenger manifests must be considered false.
This conclusion is supported by the fact that the passenger manifests that were released to the public included no names of any of the 19 alleged hijackers and, in fact, no Middle Eastern names whatsoever.85 These manifests, therefore, support the suspicion that there were no al-Qaeda hijackers on the planes.
It might appear that this conclusion is contradicted by the fact that passenger manifests with the names of the alleged hijackers have appeared. A photocopy of a portion of an apparent passenger manifest for American Flight 11, with the names of three of the alleged hijackers, was published in a 2005 book by Terry McDermott, Perfect Soldiers: The 9/11 Hijackers.86 McDermott reportedly said that he received these manifests from the FBI.87 But the idea that these were the original manifests is problematic.
For one thing, they were not included in the evidence presented by the FBI to the Moussaoui trial in 2006.88 If even the FBI will not cite them as evidence, why should anyone think they are genuine?
Another problem with these purported manifests, copies of which can be viewed on the Internet,89 is that they show signs of being late creations. One such sign is that Ziad Jarrah's last name is spelled correctly, whereas in the early days after 9/11, the FBI was referring to him as "Jarrahi," as news reports from the time show.90 A second sign is that the manifest for American Flight 77 contains Hani Hanjour's name, even though its absence from the original list of hijackers had led the Washington Post to wonder why Hanjour's "name was not on the American Airlines manifest for the flight."91 A third sign is that the purported manifest for American Flight 11 contains the names of Wail al-Shehri, Waleed al-Shehri, Satam al-Suqami, and Abdul al-Omari, all of whom were added some days after 9/11.
In sum, no credible evidence that al-Qaeda operatives were on the flights is provided by the passenger manifests.
9. Did DNA Tests Identify Five Hijackers among the Victims at the Pentagon?
Another type of evidence that the alleged hijackers were really on the planes could have been provided by autopsies. But no such evidence has been forthcoming. In its book defending the official account of 9/11, to be sure, Popular Mechanics claims that, according to a report on the victims of the Pentagon attack by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology: "The five hijackers were positively identified."92 But this claim is false.
According to a summary of this pathology report by Andrew Baker, M.D., the remains of 183 victims were subjected to DNA analysis, which resulted in "178 positive identifications." Although Baker says that "[s]ome remains for each of the terrorists were recovered," this was merely an inference from the fact that there were "five unique postmortem profiles that did not match any antemortem material provided by victims' families."93
A Washington Post story made even clearer the fact that this conclusion---that the unmatched remains were those of "the five hijackers"---was merely an inference. It wrote: "The remains of the five hijackers have been identified through a process of exclusion, as they did not match DNA samples contributed by family members of all 183 victims who died at the site" (emphasis added).94 All the report said, in other words, was that there were five bodies whose DNA did not match that of any of the known Pentagon victims or any of the regular passengers or crew members on Flight 77.
We have no way of knowing where these five bodies came from. For the claim that they came from the attack site at the Pentagon, we have only the word of the FBI and the military, which insisted on taking charge of the bodies of everyone killed at the Pentagon and transporting them to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology.95
In any case, the alleged hijackers could have been positively identified only if samples had been obtained from their relatives, and there is no indication that this occurred. Indeed, one can wonder why not. The FBI had lots of information about the men identified as the hijackers. They could easily have located relatives. And these relatives, most of whom reportedly did not believe that their own flesh and blood had been involved in the attacks, would have surely been willing to supply the needed DNA. Indeed, a story about Ziad Jarrah, the alleged pilot of Flight 93, said: "Jarrah's family has indicated they would be willing to provide DNA samples to US researchers, . . . [but] the FBI has shown no interest thus far."96
The lack of positive identification of the alleged hijackers is consistent with the autopsy report, which was released to Dr. Thomas Olmsted, who had made a FOIA request for it. Like the flight manifest for Flight 77, he revealed, this report also contains no Arab names.97
10. Has the Claim That Some of the "Hijackers" Are Still Alive Been Debunked?
Another problem with the claim that the 19 hijackers were correctly identified on 9/11, or at least a few days later, is that some of the men on the FBI's final list reportedly turned up alive after 9/11. Although Der Spiegel and the BBC claim to have debunked these reports, I will show this is untrue by examining the case of one of the alleged hijackers, Waleed al-Shehri---who, we saw earlier, was a replacement for Adnan Bukhari, who himself had shown up alive after 9/11.
In spite of the fact that al-Shehri was a replacement, the 9/11 Commission revealed no doubts about his presence on Flight 11, speculating that he and his brother Wail---another replacement---stabbed two of the flight attendants.98 But the Commission certainly should have had doubts.
On September 22, 2001, the BBC published an article by David Bamford entitled "Hijack "-Suspect' Alive in Morocco." It showed that the Waleed al-Shehri identified by the FBI as one of the hijackers was still alive. Explaining why the problem could not be dismissed as a case of mistaken identity, Bamford wrote:
His photograph was released by the FBI, and has been shown in newspapers and on television around the world. That same Mr Al-Shehri has turned up in Morocco, proving clearly that he was not a member of the suicide attack. He told Saudi journalists in Casablanca that . . . he has now been interviewed by the American authorities, who apologised for the misunderstanding.99
The following day, September 23, the BBC published another story, "Hijack "-Suspects' Alive and Well." Discussing several alleged hijackers who had shown up alive, it said of al-Shehri in particular: "He acknowledges that he attended flight training school at Daytona Beach. . . . But, he says, he left the United States in September last year, became a pilot with Saudi Arabian airlines and is currently on a further training course in Morocco."100
In 2003, an article in Der Spiegel tried to debunk these two BBC stories, characterizing them as "nonsense about surviving terrorists." It claimed that the reported still-alive hijackers were all cases of mistaken identity, involving men with "coincidentally identical names." This claim by Der Spiegel depended on its assertion that, at the time of the reports, the FBI had released only a list of names: "The FBI did not release photographs until four days after the cited reports, on September 27th."101 But that was not true. Bamford's BBC story of September 22, as we saw, reported that Waleed al-Shehri's photograph had been "released by the FBI" and "shown in newspapers and on television around the world."
In 2006, nevertheless, the BBC used the same claim to withdraw its support for its own stories. Steve Herrmann, the editor of the BBC News website, claimed that confusion had arisen because "these were common Arabic and Islamic names." Accordingly, he said, the BBC had changed its September 23 story in one respect: "Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words "-A man called Waleed Al Shehri...' to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity."102 But Bamford's BBC story of September 22, which Herrmann failed to mention, had made it "as clear as possible" that there could not have been any confusion.
These attempts by Der Spiegel and the BBC, in which they tried to discredit the reports that Waleed al-Shehri was still alive after 9/11, have been refuted by Jay Kolar, who shows that FBI photographs had been published by Saudi newspapers as early as September 19. Kolar thereby undermines the only argument against Bamford's assertion, according to which there could have been no possibility of mistaken identity because al-Shehri had seen his published photograph prior to September 22, when Bamford's story appeared.103
The fact that al-Shehri, along with several other alleged hijackers,104 was alive after 9/11 shows unambiguously that at least some of the men on the FBI's final list were not on the planes. It would appear that the FBI, after replacing some of its first-round candidates because of their continued existence, decided not to replace any more, in spite of their exhibition of the same defect.
11. Is There Positive Evidence That No Hijackers Were on the Planes?
At this point, defenders of the official story might argue: The fact that some of the men labeled hijackers were still alive after 9/11 shows only that the FBI list contained some errors; it does not prove that there were no al-Qaeda hijackers on board. And although the previous points do undermine the evidence for such hijackers, absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.
Evidence of absence, however, is implicit in the prior points in two ways. First, the lack of Arab names on the Pentagon autopsy report and on any of the issued passenger manifests does suggest the absence of al-Qaeda operatives. Second, if al-Qaeda hijackers really were on the flights, why was evidence to prove this fact fabricated?
Beyond those two points, moreover, there is a feature of the reported events that contradicts the claim that hijackers broke into the pilots' cabins. This feature can be introduced by reference to Conan Doyle's short story "Silver Blaze," which is about a famous race horse that had disappeared the night before a big race. Although the local Scotland Yard detective believed that Silver Blaze had been stolen by an intruder, Sherlock Holmes brought up "the curious incident of the dog in the night-time." When the inspector pointed out that "[t]he dog did nothing in the night-time," Holmes replied: "That was the curious incident."105 Had there really been an intruder, in other words, the dog would have barked. This has become known as the case of "the dog that didn't bark."
A similar curious incident occurred on each of the four flights. In the event of a hijacking, pilots are trained to enter the standard hijack code (7500) into their transponders to alert controllers on the ground. Using the transponder to send a code is called "squawking." One of the big puzzles about 9/11 was why none of the pilots squawked the hijack code.
CNN provided a good treatment of this issue, saying with regard to the first flight:
Flight 11 was hijacked apparently by knife-wielding men. Airline pilots are trained to handle such situations by keeping calm, complying with requests, and if possible, dialing in an emergency four digit code on a device called a transponder. . . . The action takes seconds, but it appears no such code was entered.106
The crucial issue was indicated by the phrase "if possible": Would it have been possible for the pilots of Flight 11 to have performed this action? A positive answer was suggested by CNN's next statement:
n the cabin, a frantic flight attendant managed to use a phone to call American Airlines Command Center in Dallas. She reported the trouble. And according to "The Christian Science Monitor," a pilot apparently keyed the microphone, transmitting a cockpit conversation.107
If there was time for both of those actions to be taken, there would have been time for one of the pilots to enter the four-digit hijack code.
That would have been all the more true of the pilots on United Flight 93, given the (purported) tapes from this flight. A reporter at the Moussaoui trial, where these tapes had been played, wrote:
In those tapes, the pilots shouted as hijackers broke into the cockpit. "Mayday! Mayday! Mayday!" a pilot screamed in the first tape. In the second tape, 30 seconds later, a pilot shouted: "Mayday! Get out of here! Get out of here!"108
According to these tapes, therefore, the pilots were still alive and coherent 30 seconds after realizing that hijackers were breaking into the cockpit. And yet in all that time, neither of them did the most important thing they had been trained to do---turn the transponder to 7500.
In addition to the four pilots on Flights 11 and 93, furthermore, the four pilots on Flights 175 and 77 failed to do this as well.
In "Silver Blaze," the absence of an intruder was shown by the dog that didn't bark. On 9/11, the absence of hijackers was shown by the pilots who didn't squawk.
12. Were bin Laden and al-Qaeda Capable of Orchestrating the Attacks?
For prosecutors to prove that defendants committed a crime, they must show that they had the ability (as well as the motive and opportunity) to do so. But several political and military leaders from other countries have stated that bin Laden and al-Qaeda simply could not have carried out the attacks. General Leonid Ivashov, who in 2001 was the chief of staff for the Russian armed forces, wrote:
Only secret services and their current chiefs---or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations---have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. . . . . Osama bin Laden and "Al Qaeda" cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders.
Mohamed Hassanein Heikal, the former foreign minister of Egypt, wrote:
Bin Laden does not have the capabilities for an operation of this magnitude. When I hear Bush talking about al-Qaida as if it was Nazi Germany or the communist party of the Soviet Union, I laugh because I know what is there.
Similar statements have been made by Andreas von Bülow, the former state secretary of West Germany's ministry of defense, by General Mirza Aslam Beg, former chief of staff of Pakistan's army, and even General Musharraf, the president of Pakistan until recently.109
This same point was also made by veteran CIA agent Milt Bearden. Speaking disparagingly of "the myth of Osama bin Laden" on CBS News the day after 9/11, Bearden said: "I was there [in Afghanistan] at the same time bin Laden was there. He was not the great warrior." With regard to the widespread view that bin Laden was behind the attacks, he said: "This was a tremendously sophisticated operation against the United States---more sophisticated than anybody would have ascribed to Osama bin Laden." Pointing out that a group capable of such a sophisticated attack would have had a way to cover their tracks, he added: "This group who was responsible for that, if they didn't have an Osama bin Laden out there, they'd invent one, because he's a terrific diversion."110
13. Could Hani Hanjour Have Flown Flight 77 into the Pentagon?
The inability of al-Qaeda to have carried out the operation can be illustrated in terms of Hani Hanjour, the al-Qaeda operative said to have flown Flight 77 into the Pentagon.
On September 12, before it was stated that Hanjour had been the pilot of American 77, the final minutes of this plane's trajectory had been described as one requiring great skill. A Washington Post story said:
[J]ust as the plane seemed to be on a suicide mission into the White House, the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. . . . Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm.111
But Hani Hanjour was not that. Indeed, a CBS story reported, an Arizona flight school said that Hanjour's "flying skills were so bad . . . they didn't think he should keep his pilot's license." The manager stated: "I couldn't believe he had a commercial license of any kind with the skills that he had."112 A New York Times story, entitled "A Trainee Noted for Incompetence," quoted one of his instructors as saying that Hanjour "could not fly at all."113
The 9/11 Commission even admitted that in the summer of 2001, just months before 9/11, a flight instructor in New Jersey, after going up with Hanjour in a small plane, "declined a second request because of what he considered Hanjour's poor piloting skills."114 The Commission failed to address the question of how Hanjour, incapable of flying a single-engine plane, could have flown a giant 757 through the trajectory reportedly taken by Flight 77: descending 8,000 feet in three minutes and then coming in at ground level to strike Wedge 1 of the Pentagon between the first and second floors, without even scraping the lawn.
Several pilots have said this would have been impossible. Russ Wittenberg, who flew large commercial airliners for 35 years after serving as a fighter pilot in Vietnam, says it would have been "totally impossible for an amateur who couldn't even fly a Cessna" to fly that downward spiral and then "crash into the Pentagon's first floor wall without touching the lawn."115 Ralph Omholt, a former 757 pilot, has bluntly said: "The idea that an unskilled pilot could have flown this trajectory is simply too ridiculous to consider."116 Ralph Kolstad, who was a US Navy "top gun" pilot before becoming a commercial airline pilot for 27 years, has said: "I have 6,000 hours of flight time in Boeing 757's and 767's and I could not have flown it the way the flight path was described. . . . Something stinks to high heaven!"117
The authors of the Popular Mechanics book about 9/11 offered to solve this problem. While acknowledging that Hanjour "may not have been highly skilled," they said that he did not need to be, because all he had to do was, using a GPS unit, put his plane on autopilot.118 "He steered the plane manually for only the final eight minutes of the flight," they state triumphantly119---ignoring the fact that it was precisely during those minutes that Hanjour had allegedly performed the impossible.
14. Would an al-Qaeda Pilot Have Executed that Maneuver?
A further question is: Even if one of the al-Qaeda operatives on that flight could have executed that maneuver, would he have done so? This question arises out of the fact that the plane could easily have crashed into the roof on the side of the Pentagon that housed Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and all the top brass. The difficult maneuver would have been required only by the decision to strike Wedge 1 on the side.
But this was the worst possible place, given the assumed motives of the al-Qaeda operatives: They would have wanted to kill Rumsfeld and the top brass, but Wedge 1 was as far removed from their offices as possible. They would have wanted to cause as much destruction as possible, but Wedge 1---and only it---had been renovated to make it less vulnerable to attack. Al-Qaeda operatives would have wanted to kill as many Pentagon employees as possible, but because the renovation was not quite complete, Wedge 1 was only sparsely occupied. The attack also occurred on the only part of the Pentagon that would have presented physical obstacles to an attacking airplane. All of these facts were public knowledge. So even if an al-Qaeda pilot had been capable of executing the maneuver to strike the ground floor of Wedge 1, he would not have done so.
15. Could al-Qaeda Operatives Have Brought Down the World Trade Center Buildings?
Returning to the issue of competence, another question is whether al-Qaeda operatives could have brought down the Twin Towers and WTC 7?
With regard to the Twin Towers, the official theory is that they were brought down by the impact of the airplanes plus the ensuing fires. But this theory cannot explain why the towers, after exploding outwards at the top, came straight down, because this type of collapse would have required all 287 of each building's steel columns---which ran from the basement to the roof---to have failed simultaneously; it cannot explain why the top parts of the buildings came straight down at virtually free-fall speed, because this required that the lower parts of the building, with all of their steel and concrete, offered no resistance; it cannot explain why sections of steel beams, weighing thousands of tons, were blown out horizontally more than 500 feet; it cannot explain why some of the steel had melted, because this melting required temperatures far hotter than the fires in the buildings could possibly have been; and it cannot explain why many firefighters and WTC employees reported massive explosions in the buildings long after all the jet-fuel had burned up. But all of these phenomena are easily explainable by the hypothesis that the buildings were brought down by explosives in the procedure known as controlled demolition.120
This conclusion now constitutes the consensus of independent physicists, chemists, architects, engineers, and demolition experts who have studied the facts.121 For example, Edward Munyak, a mechanical and fire protection engineer who worked in the US departments of energy and defense, says: "The concentric nearly freefall speed exhibited by each building was identical to most controlled demolitions. . . . Collapse [was] not caused by fire effects."122 Dwain Deets, the former director of the research engineering division at NASA's Dryden Flight Research Center, mentions the "massive structural members being hurled horizontally" as one of the factors leaving him with "no doubt [that] explosives were involved."123
Given the fact that WTC 7 was not even hit by a plane, its vertical collapse at virtually free-fall speed, which also was preceded by explosions and involved the melting of steel, was still more obviously an example of controlled demolition.124 For example, Jack Keller, emeritus professor of engineering at Utah State University, who has been given special recognition by Scientific American, said: "Obviously it was the result of controlled demolition."125 Likewise, when Danny Jowenko---a controlled demolition expert in the Netherlands who had not known that WTC 7 had collapsed on 9/11---was asked to comment on a video of its collapse, he said: "They simply blew up columns, and the rest caved in afterwards. . . . t's been imploded. . . . A team of experts did this."126
If the Twin Towers and WTC 7 were brought down by explosives, the question becomes: Who would have had the ability to place the explosives? This question involves two parts: First, who could have obtained access to the buildings for all the hours it would have taken to plant the explosives? The answer is: Only someone with connections to people in charge of security for the World Trade Center.
The second part of the question is: Who, if they had such access, would have had the expertise to engineer the controlled demolition of these three buildings? As Jowenko's statement indicated, the kind of controlled demolition to which these buildings were subjected was implosion, which makes the building come straight down. According to ImplosionWorld.com, an implosion is "by far the trickiest type of explosive project, and there are only a handful of blasting companies in the world that possess enough experience . . . to perform these true building implosions."127
Both parts of the question, therefore, rule out al-Qaeda operatives. The destruction of the World Trade Center had to have been an inside job.
16. Would al-Qaeda Operatives Have Imploded the Buildings?
Finally, we can also ask whether, even if al-Qaeda operatives had possessed the ability to cause the World Trade Center buildings to implode so as to come straight down, they would have done so? The answer to this question becomes obvious once we reflect upon the purpose of this kind of controlled demolition, which is to avoid damaging near-by buildings. Had the 110-story Twin Towers fallen over sideways, they would have caused massive destruction in lower Manhattan, destroying dozens of other buildings and killing tens of thousands of people. Would al-Qaeda have had the courtesy to make sure that the buildings came straight down?
All the proffered evidence that America was attacked by Muslims on 9/11, when subjected to critical scrutiny, appears to have been fabricated. If that is determined indeed to be the case, the implications would be enormous. Discovering and prosecuting the true perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks would obviously be important. The most immediate consequence, however, should be to reverse those attitudes and policies that have been based on the assumption that America was attacked by Muslims on 9/11.
David Ray Griffin is Emeritus Professor of Philosophy of Religion at Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University. He has published 34 books, including seven about 9/11, most recently The New Pearl Harbor Revisited: 9/11, the Cover-Up, and the Exposé (Northampton: Olive Branch, 2008).
1. On the ways in which torture, extraordinary rendition, government spying, and the military tribunals have undermined US constitutional principles, see Louis Fisher, The Constitution and 9/11: Recurring Threats to America?s Freedoms (Lawrence: Kansas University Press, 2008).
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From the Courier Mail item dated November 01, 2012;
“Civil Aviation Safety Authority spokesman Peter Gibson said: “The trail that you see from the ground is water vapour. It’s like on a frosty winter’s morning when you go outside and breathe. What comes out is your hot, warm, moist breath and when it hits cold, dry air you get condensation. It’s exactly the same with aircraft warm air comes out of the engine and hits the cold dry atmosphere.”“
What he did not say, or that was edited out, is that as soon as the two merge and balance the contrails disappear, and is the reason why you do not see contrails in cloud at all.
This statement tells us about contrails and why chemtrails are not contrails.
I believe that one of the easiest ways to understand the problem is by comparison. Can those who refute the idea of chemtrails see by example what happens if we were to pour a litre of water at, say, 35 degrees Celsius into a container with 1,000 litres of water at, say, 15 degrees Celsius.
Would the 1 litre warm the 1,000 litres or would the 1,000 litres cool the 1 litre? The answer is called equilibrium and I suspect with such dilution there would be no change in temperature of the 1,000 litres but the 1 litre would be rapidly cooled to the same temperature as the surrounding 1,000 litres. This is only a small scale comparison because an aircraft would be putting out thousands of litres of exhaust gas into billions upon billions of litres of its surrounding atmosphere as it transits and balance would reign supreme as in this comparison.
By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 15 - 14:18:55
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
in the upcoming interview with mike ( hyperbole ohh noes theyre going to shoot us out the sky!! ) glynne..
in order to determine if he possesses more than a “room temperature IQ”
would you kindly ask him if he agrees or disagrees with the government position on 9/11, or if he agrees with the majority of the worlds population that the official position on 911 be utterly impossible.
also, be interesting to know a few more details and see some examples of all these threats
“Threats to shoot down aircraft or harming pilots are becoming more prevalent, overt and alarming,”
and exactly what weapons he imagines chemtrail activists are hiding in their cupboards that are capable of bringing down aircraft.
By agin mee on 2012 11 15 - 11:31:15
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
Thank you Josh for the URL
as it clearly demonstrates that the fog being induced is from the heated exhaust emissions. You will note, if you have been to such places where the ground temperatures become low enough for this regular occurrence at such places, that the fog only lasts a very short time. It does not take over the surrounding atmosphere and bend it to its condition. This is the result of the water vapour in the air being processed through the engine in a similar fashion to what happens at altitude with other engines. The fog is then warmed to the surrounding temperature by natural balance and dissipates the same way it does at altitude. The idea that this fog could so influence the surrounding atmosphere, as is posited by those who believe in “persistent” contrails turning into vast sheets of cloud, is so far removed from what is possible under the laws of physics and thermodynamics as to be quite funny. The idea that ice crystals formed by engine exhausts draw moisture from the surrounding atmosphere and “grow” is an ambit claim because it seems to say that the minor can fully influence the major. What happens is that natural equilibrium ensures that balance is restored after an aircraft passes.
Whilst returning to Australia one day, flying in formation, I was wingman to my leader and I slipped behind and below him to take a look at his undercarriage. While I was there he poured a cup of hot water down his piss-a-phone (the pilots relief tube operated by utilising the pressurisation of the aircraft). The water froze instantaneously and small chunks of ice hit my aircraft. They then descended under the effect of gravity (naturally) and would have melted and been absorbed by the surrounding atmosphere. It was a clear day at 25,000 feet and not a cloud in the sky as is normal on winter days when we see real contrails. What has never been explained is why we see chemtrails, which some seem to believe are contrails, on days, and at altitudes where the ambient conditions are not conducive to the formation of contrails. Contrail over Brisbane airport at 10,000 feet on a summer morning? Cannot happen. It was a chemtrail no doubt in my mind. Unexplainable by chemtrail deniers.
By Leonard Clampett on 2012 11 15 - 09:54:08
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
@Wayne Hall, TAFKAA may wish to respond and I would be interest to hear that but incase not, let me put it in my profane term’s even the uninitiated should be able to comprehend.
You questioned AnonVZero about posting anonymously. A name is what binds an individual to the government and it’s laws of the land. Much of the lands has been occupied by corrupt police-state authorities and we use our anonymity to fight back. Some of us don’t give a rats ass about the chemtrails v contrails argument but enjoy seeing you guys go round in circles about it.
As the arrogant admins of this site carry on just like corrupt government and seem to enjoy blocking and banning and hypocritically feigning being a victim of the same and as we defend their right to free speech, we decided here would be a great place come when teaching noobs web anonymity basics.
It was recently decided that we now use this otherwise “worthless” in our eyes thread as a practice range for testing and teaching others various technologies and anonymity techniques. The site admin was told cyber activism is not violence but he disagrees so we think he needs personal demonstrations.
Westbro baptist church have a right to free speech as do scientology, just as we have a right to appose extreme stupidity, however we see fit. When someone gets rubbed up the wrong way that is not our problem.
By Jok3r on 2012 11 15 - 09:47:00
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
it is likely that there is a difference in shape between spontaneosly occurring cirrus clouds and contrail-induced cirrus. Obviously the linearity of the contrail will influence the form of the resulting cirrus.
Both are made of water ice crystals though.
both may contain ice crystals, more accurately.. other than that its a fair statement of the obvious… that they look different, but i think the videos distinction between normal cirrus and contrail cirrus went well beyond the obvious artificial shape and appearance of contrail cirrus.
and when it is observered that there is no spontaneous cirrus occurring and the only cloud cover that spreads and persists over the course of the whole day, day after day after day, originates from aircraft, and while other aircraft display contrails that do dissipate rapidly, it is not unreasonable to assume that the likelihood of conducive weather conditions for persistent contrails to exist over such an extended period would be quite low, and that there may be ( likely ) other elements contained in the trails other than ice crystals.
a photo of traffic exhaust in alaska is not evidence that this is unreasonable.
many believe the CON-trail science site is about as useful in finding more than one opinion expressed regarding this topic as is the jref site in relation to information/truth about 9/11.
By agin mee on 2012 11 15 - 09:39:08
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
In the pre-Copenhagen period, when securing support for extension of emissions trading into aviation was an important priority, “aviation cirrus” had a bad name. Its negative characteristics were emphasized. There are many examples on this already quoted site
“Aerosol particles from aviation—comprising soot, metals, sulfuric acid, water vapor, and possibly nitric acid and unburned hydrocarbons—may influence the state of the atmosphere in many ways. These particles may provide surfaces for heterogeneous chemical reactions, both in the exhaust plume and on regional and global scales; represent a sink for condensable atmospheric gases; absorb or scatter radiation directly; and change cloud properties that may affect radiation indirectly. Persistent contrails can directly cause additional cirrus clouds to form. In addition, aerosol particles may enhance sedimentation and precipitation of atmospheric water vapor, hence affecting the hydrological cycle and the budget of other gases and particles.”
In a later phase, after some years of attempted cultivation of public support for “solar radiation management” positive (cooling) characteristics would begin to be attributed to this same phenomenon of “contrail cirrus”.
As far as I can see, nothing has changed other than the agenda.
There could be no possible basis for making the absurd claim that aircraft condensation trails are comprised simply comprised of “ice” other than the requirement of rhetorical exaggeration in tedious “contrail vs chemtrail” exchanges with chemtrail activists.
By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 15 - 07:12:17
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
There is a nice picture of traffic in Alaska here:
If it’s cold enough, the water vapor in car and heating exhaust becomes visible and even freezes (high relative humidity, small spread).
This is the whole page about “contrails on the ground”:
By Josh on 2012 11 15 - 06:33:33
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
it is likely that there is a difference in shape between spontaneosly occurring cirrus clouds and contrail-induced cirrus. Obviously the linearity of the contrail will influence the form of the resulting cirrus.
Both are made of water ice crystals though.
By Josh on 2012 11 15 - 06:24:07
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
Leonard Clampett said:
“the engine used does not determine a contrail, it can be a piston engine or a turbine. It is ambient conditions that predicate contrails obeying the laws of physics and thermodynamics.”
That is correct.
“The only moisture that comes from combustion is from the hydrogen molecules and they are not overly saturated as there is no water in fuel in aircraft. Ergo, the only moisture emitted from an exhaust came from the intake air and minuscule amounts of hydrogen.”
This is incorrect - not because I say so (plus Qantas pilot Michael Glynn), but because it contradicts basic chemistry.
Here is the (simplified) formula for kerosene combustion, but the process in any combustion engine is similar:
2 C12H26 + 37 O2 = 24 CO2 + 26 H2O
Two (large) molecules of fuel react (burn) with 37 pairs of Oxygen atoms.
The product of that reaction are 24 molecules of Carbondioxyde and 26 molecules of water - which were not in the intake air.
Your car and the plane you are flying are emitting water vapor all the time.
By Josh on 2012 11 15 - 06:15:43
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.
TAFKAA sorry I don’t follow much of your above posting. Too many initials, too many esoteric references. If you really want to say something to me you’ll have to make it simpler. If you are not talking to me specifically, however, don’t worry about it.
By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 15 - 05:51:28
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.