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Cheney authorised the torture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

19 December 2008 | Permalink | comments: 0

Categories: [ 9/11 Truth Movement ]

The confession by Cheney that the criminal case against KSM is built on evidence acquired through torture gives us some of the best evidence so far in support of the 9/11 Truth Movement's claim that a new investigation of 9/11 is urgently needed.

Dick Cheney has admitted in an ABC television interview that he personally authorised the water-boarding of the alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM).

This is surely prima facie evidence for criminal charges. As noted in a recent Raw Story piece, after World War II Japanese soldiers were tried and convicted of war crimes in US courts for water-boarding.

Wikipedia defines water-boarding as:

a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on their back with the head inclined downward and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning and is made to believe that death is imminent.

In 1968, a U.S. soldier was court-martialed for water boarding a Vietnamese prisoner.

The efficacy of torture methods for extracting useful information from prisoners has been thoroughly debunked by experienced interrogators and Cheney's claim that the program has been "very effective" is ridiculous in the light of the multitude of implausible confessions made by KSM, including plots to assasinate Jimmy Carter, Bll Clinton and Pope John Paul II. He claimed to have personally beheaded Daniel Pearl, as well as overseeing the Bali Sari Club bombing in 2002. He most astounding confession was a plan to bomb the Plaza Bank in Washington State, which was founded three years after his arrest.

More recently the withdrawal of confessions by KSM and four others has made a complete mockery of the Guantanamo Bay trial.

The very notion that the primary purpose of torture is to extract information is false. Torture is a tool of intimidation and totalitarian control, nothing more, As the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services director told Congress:

"... torture is the deliberate mental and physical damage caused by governments to individuals to ... terrorize society."


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By sick of all the lies on 2014 10 01 - 14:30:26
From the entry 'A review of violence and intolerance in Islamic and other societies'.

Leonard Clampett,

can you point out where anyone around here wrote or somehow conveyed the opinion “that governments can, and will, do no wrong”? The fact that contrails can persist and spread doesn’t have the slightest impact on the morality of governments ...

Do you doubt the basic mechanism of cloud formation that I summarized exists? Then please explain where I got it wrong - or the University of North Carolina that I linked to - or all my flight teachers and the text books for the exam - or all the guide books about clouds.
Be specific, don’t just say “misinformation” without giving any reason. By all means, show some actual “scrutiny”, along with references.

Of course I could have introduced dry and saturated lapse rate, condensation nuclei and many more sophisticated details, but that does not alter the principal mechanism of rising, cooling and increasing RH.

By the way, your credentials are not helping, I’m afraid - at least as long as you display a basic misunderstanding of central processes like combustion or supersaturation (which you claim doesn’t even exist).

By Josh on 2014 09 27 - 07:31:30
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Thanks mate, greatly appreciated.

By Hereward Fenton on 2014 09 24 - 22:27:31
From the entry 'Introducing Professor Garth L Nicolson: pioneering researcher on mycoplasmas'.

I know you don’t buy it, but the whole thing seems very much manufactured. Even the footage and the stories.
Anyways, great work as always. Keep on this topic. I believe it is the defining moment for the future of the middle east. 

I am about to subscribe smile  For the years of your hard work.. Well done mate..

By Shaun on 2014 09 24 - 17:53:41
From the entry 'Introducing Professor Garth L Nicolson: pioneering researcher on mycoplasmas'.

I don’t believe the ISIS propaganda Shaun, but I do believe these are real people dressed in black who are killing lots of innocent people in Syria. This is not a fiction. Cheers.

By Hereward Fenton on 2014 09 24 - 16:31:57
From the entry 'Introducing Professor Garth L Nicolson: pioneering researcher on mycoplasmas'.

I am drawn back to read further nonsense every time I receive a note to advise that somebody has responded to a relevant post. Rosa Koire Speech about Agenda 21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-qLUQlmBk4 When you read and hear commonsense it makes you think. For Hereward Fenton and the other government shills on this site who insist that governments can, and will, do no wrong, compare the Agenda 21 list of goals to the 8 steps of Carl Marx listed in his Communist Manifesto. None of the claims by Josh or others regarding “lingering” chemtrails stand up to scrutiny so far. Josh’s simplistic dreams about cloud formation and “lingering” contrails are just that. I note some claims about wanting a pilot to comment, but apparently my comments as an Airline Transport Pilot of 14,000 hours and Aircraft Maintenance Engineer do not suit his misinformation, or outright ignorant, position. When the realisation hits these people, I wonder if they will understand what is being done to us all in the name of the New World Order?

By Leonard Clampett on 2014 09 23 - 17:22:21
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Cris,

you ask: “Why are there so many of these trails when rain is likely or predicted?”

Very good question, and one that should be answered before assuming all kinds of bad things.

Approaching fronts are the most frequent cause of rain. During their approach, they lift the current air mass. Lifting always means cooling (see “lapse rate”), and cooling means rising the relative humidity because cooler air can hold less water vapor. So even while containing the same absolute amount of water, cooling air approaches the point where the relative humidity reaches 100%.

This is the “dew point” - at that moment you get clouds because the water vapor condenses.

Now when a plane comes by and passes through the lifted moist air, shortly before the dew point is reached - then it is obviously much more likely to create a contrail because the conditions for trails are a lot better than usual, and it continuosly contributes water vapor (from the fuel combustion) along its path which adds to the existing humidity, triggering a trail and probably the start of a haze layer.*

This phase may last several hours, especially with warm fronts.

There is a nice schematics of “lifting mechanisms” on this page from NC State University.

Your next question is not quite reasonable. Why should anyone have to prove the non-existence of ongoing geo-engineering? It’s clearly required to prove its existence in the first place before making accusations. Innocent until proven guilty, right?

Patents are no evidence for anything. It’s easy to get one, you don’t have to build anything or even show that your invention actually works.

I’m sure there is a lot of rot that must be stopped. I just don’t think it’s where you assume it is.


* Footnote: the whole thing gets a bit more complicated when ice comes into play.

By Josh on 2014 09 23 - 04:15:04
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Hi Josh
I don’t need any more evidence. I need answers.
Why are there so many of these trails when rain is likely or predicted?
How about the people at the helm, the political minitures, sign documents at their own unlimited commercial liability saying the there is no Geoengineering happening? Lets see if they have the guts to do that. If not, why not? Is something being hidden? Why are there near 150 patents for chemical weather remediation? Lots of whys and you wish to dampen the fire of resistance. I guess fluoride and vaccinations are no problem either?
The rot must be stopped and it won’t be by sitting on our hands.
Selah
Cris

By Cris on 2014 09 20 - 19:23:32
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Leonard Clampett,

weather patterns are changing, something scientists have predicted would happen for quite a while.

How is that relevant in the debate about persistent contrails?

By Josh on 2014 09 20 - 17:24:10
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Cris,

before initiating a petition, you want to be sure that the issues you list are real.

What you need is a sample from a contrail, taken in the presence of witnesses, analyzed in a lab to show all components contained. Pointing to Youtube videos as evidence will not be enough. How do you know that the video creators got it right?

The original meme of Chemtrails is that any trail that is not short-lived must be something else, and that persistent trails are something new. As shown before, both of these are wrong assumptions.

It’s just a matter of the favorable atmospheric conditions, and has been observed since the first airplanes were able to reach high altitudes.

So why assume that persistent contrails are something evil in the first place?

By the way, HAARP and weather modification (rain making) were stacked upon the first claims only later. However, cloud seeding is known since the 1940s and has never been a secret or been applied on a larger scale.

HAARP had interacted with the ionosphere which has no influence on the troposphere far below (where the weather happens). It is being dismantled right now.

What’s left are countless images and videos of contrails, sun dogs, haze layers. Would you accept if officials tell you these are all effects of tiny ice crystals?

If not, then what would you be prepared to accept?

By Josh on 2014 09 20 - 17:22:38
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

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