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January 23, 2010, part 1 of 1.
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23 January 2010
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Categories: [ AIDS, Big Pharma, Media Lies ]

House of Numbers by Brent Leung

In tonight's show we bring you a gripping interview with American film maker Brent Leung, whose documentary on AIDS, House of Numbers, has collected a swag of awards at film festivals across the United States.  The interview was conducted on the Radio Skid Row 88.9 FM breakfast show in Sydney on 21 Jan 2010.

The film explores a controversy which has been all but hidden from the general public due to blatant censorship in mainstream media over several decades, and consists of a series of interviews with some of the most distinguished biomedical scientists of our age, including two Nobel Prize winners.

At its core the controversy over AIDS is easy to state: there are many qualified experts who vigorously assert the HIV does not cause AIDS.

This claim however belies deeper questions about whether AIDS is really a disease at all, since the label is applied in different countries based on quite different criteria. An added complication is the fact that there are major uncertainties about whether the HIV anti-body tests actually work, which has led some scientists to question the fundamental existence of the HIV virus.

The AIDS controversy may be an obscure and perplexing scientific problem, but the politics of AIDS is a reality which affects billions of people all over the world, leading to public policies which, if based on flawed science, may have caused the death of millions by the use of highly toxic chemical treatments.

Nobel Prize winner Luc Montaigner states in the film that AIDS in Africa could be eradicated by improved nutrition and the provision clean drinking water instead of costly and unproven programs of mass medication and vaccination. This approach was also advocated by former president of South Africa, Thabo Mbecki, who was pilloried in the press as an "AIDS Denialist".

This broadcast is one of the most important we have done at TNRA - please share it around and take a good look into the issues raised.

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Congratulations for this interview.<br>You may also be interested in the point: Aids: are we being deceived? at: http://www.nrc.nl/international/Opinion/article1984104.ece/AIDS_are_we_being_deceived<br><br>Christian Fiala, MD, PhD<br>Vienna, Austria

By Christian Fiala on 2010 01 24 - 20:43:32

Hi Sabretruth, and thanks for your comment. There is an underlying problem with your terms of reference. The terms “AIDS” and “HIV positive” are assumed by you to have clear definitions - however the reality could not be farther from the case. THis goes to the heart of the whole problem and it is the reason for Brent’s film. Duesberg is not held up by Brent as having the answer - he provides one opinion in a spectrum of opinion.<br><br>AIDS is a very messy and difficult subject to discuss because the basic underlying science has been so corrupted. <br><br>You can be HIV positive in one country and negative in another. That is because the tests are not uniform.<br><br>The same can be said for an AIDS diagnosis. People can be diagnosed with AIDS just because of a low T-cell count even without any other symptoms.<br><br>If you present with tuberculosis and you are HIV negative, it is called tuberculosis. If you are HIV positive, it is called AIDS. <br><br>This is all compounded by the fact that the medicines are so toxic and can produce the very symptoms of AIDS.<br><br>The study you referenced would be useful only if the sero-positive group stayed off the anti-retrovirals. This of course never happens.

By Hereward on 2010 01 25 - 18:17:18

I was curious about the location of the first document under Related Links (HIV-AIDS hypothesis out of touch with South African AIDS – A new perspective). After reading the paper I checked the digital object identifier (DOI) hyperlink for citing the paper, doi:10.1016/j.mehy.2009.06.024, which forwards to a page on sciencedirect.com showing that the article has been withdrawn.<br><br>“This Article-in-Press has been withdrawn pending the results of an investigation.<br><br>“The editorial policy of Medical Hypotheses makes it clear that the journal considers “radical, speculative, and non-mainstream scientific ideas”, and articles will only be acceptable if they are “coherent and clearly expressed.” However, we have received serious expressions of concern about the quality of this article, which contains highly controversial opinions about the causes of AIDS, opinions that could potentially be damaging to global public health. Concern has also been expressed that the article contains potentially libelous material.<br><br>“Given these important signals of concern, we judge it correct to investigate the circumstances in which this article came to be published online. When the investigation and review have been completed we will issue a further statement. Until that time, the article has been removed from all Elsevier databases.<br><br>“The Publisher apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause. The full Elsevier Policy on Article Withdrawal can be found at http://www.elsevier.com/locate/withdrawalpolicy.”<br><br>It is indicated that the article was “Available online 19 July 2009”, but not when it was withdrawn nor what the status of the investigation is.

By Bradfield Resident on 2010 01 26 - 23:32:23

I appreciate the problems with the definitions and the problems you mention with the fact that nowadays virtually everyone diagnosed is on the meds, but the study I cited doesn’t mention that they were on retrovirals, the test wouldn’t be of any use if they were.<br><br>I’m concerned about the documented cases of people who refuse to take the meds due to either a dislike of mainstream western medicine or because they believe the Duesberg hypothesis and they die, despite the fact that they live healthy lives.<br><br>I’m not saying you or Duesberg are wrong, I’m merely saying that there seems to be evidence that contradicts it. There is the possibility that the people who died not taking the meds were set up or killed by the Govt/big pharma to make it look like AIDS to end the debate (I wouldn’t put it past them) but I still need more evidence.<br><br>It’s just a pity that the medical establishment is entirely corrupted, it’s virtually impossible at the moment to prove the HIV AIDS connection false, here’s hoping that the political situation changes thanks in no small part to great sites like 911oz and your work Hereward.

By Sabretruthtiger on 2010 01 27 - 21:00:17

I would like to see a study specifically created to monitor the long term health of HIV+ people who don’t take the retrovirals (or other recreational drugs). <br><br>I think Duesberg is isolated in his opinion that an HIV+ test has zero diagnostic value. <br><br>The question in many people’s minds is what does the HIV+ result really mean? <br><br>For example, it may be an indicator of some health risk based on correlation rather than causation as there are many cases of HIV+ people leading perfectly healthy lives off the drugs. There are also cases of non-medicated HIV+ people like Christine Maggiore dying from conditions considered to be AIDS indicators.<br><br>However, unless the construct “HIV+” is more rigorously defined it seems that there is little chance of getting any good research results. You would want to know exactly which test they did (western blot, eliza etc..) and then you would want to plot those results against their ongoing health.

By Hereward on 2010 01 28 - 04:55:53

As a person diagnosed 19 years ago as HIV+ and does not take medications in Sydney I thank you for bringing this subject into the awareness of more people. <br><br>Please also be aware that doctors are not willing to study us or follow our alternative approach therefore giving a false perspective of statistics. (Just because that we are not in studied does not mean we do not exist.) Personally I found the only way I could continue with alternative therapies without being constantly pressured to take drugs was to discontinue seeing HIV specialists as have other people I know.<br><br> The image engrained in peoples minds of a skeleton AIDS victim was when AZT was heavily prescribed…luckily I only took AZT for one month in 1992 then stopped or I would have been added to their AIDS statistics. (Doctors now except that AZT was too toxic but always use the “ but we did the best we could at the time’ defence.)  There are many good intentioned Doctors out there but risk being struck off unless they follow the orthodoxy.<br><br> The only ammunition they have in convincing people to take the toxic medication is the FEAR of becoming an AZT victim. Before AZT the cause of immune deficiency in AIDS patients was 1. Overly prescribed antibiotics taken to sustain constant sexual/ viral infections caused by promiscuous lifestyles.2. Heavy recreational drug use. These days the drugs are less toxic thus taking longer to show side effects. Show me a person who has visual effects of HIV – lipodystrophy, premature ageing, bloating, wasting etc and I’ll show you a person on meds. These days liver failure is a major cause of death. This did not occur before simply because the drugs were so toxic their entire bodies failed.<br><br> I was around in the epidemic and watched 1000’s of beautiful people wither away. 100’s were friends who I had lengthy discussions with at the time. The only difference between these people and me was that I did not blindly follow my doctor’s advice. I now look forward to living long enough to see the end of this medical madness. These people did not die in vain. Their deaths will eventually help expose the larger pharma fraud.<br><br>S

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