such a big topic with not enough time. Only just scratched the surface. Should bring back each guest individualy for one on one with only hereward.

I agree with Matt wholeheartedly.

The only real issue I see with the zeitgeist movement, is the transitional process. With that said, I would like say this.

In regards to the discussion surrounding people using force to attain others unique creations, I believe this would be a non-issue. Here's my reasoning.

Whether it be music creation, sculptural creation, scientific creation or the pursuit of information, these are essentially all forms of art.

I believe any artist will tell you that the joy or reward they attain is not only achieved by the means of discovery or creation, but also the sharing of that creation or information. Simply put, an artist makes their art or discovery to share with the world because this in itself brings happiness.

The reward within itself is seeing the smile or knowing of the joy bestowed upon their common persons.

At the same time, we all yearn a sense of uniqueness. As much as there is an underlying want to be identified as a fellow human, we all want to be able to be differentiated from each other.

So with an artist wanting to keep their creation to themselves. With them not been willing to trade their sculpture for someone else's bread and honey. I think that once the transition has been made, you would find that forcible taking the art of someone else would not happen.

I believe with education and the elimination of the dog eat dog mantra that comes with our current form of society, people would achieve satisfaction from recognition and sharing. Coupled with the yearning to be unique, one would not want a replica or someone else's personal creation. They would commission the artist for a mild variant.

If the two artists could not come to an arrangement for trade of their goods, reward would come from the pleasure of teaching the other to make the art themselves. Whether it be sharing of a recipe or technique.

We all at our deepest level gain an invaluable sense of joy by simply sharing joy itself. If we all have what we need, we would understand and embrace the two elements that empowers us all. The yearning to be unique, and the joy of sharing.

I'm not sure how else to say this but I believe once we are all truly free, that is the freedom of our choosing what we want to do with our time, all people would simply have no need or desire to steal anything.

Would you steal my music or sculpture knowing all well that I have the ability to make something more unique?

Wouldn't you rather me make something special for you? Wouldn't you rather I teach you how to make it yourself so you can also gain the joy of creation and exploration itself?

Why would I want yours, when you or I could make me something that echoes who I am? A perfectly unique creation.

I'm not sure if I've accurately made my point, I could say it a million times in a million different ways, but I know in my heart, there's nothing I could create that would be, in my opinion, a finite example of my best work. I would share it openly with or without reward, for sharing itself brings something that no price can be placed.

Or sumthin.... =^-^=

I honestly thought that I was living in a country that mainly was libertarian and we all pretty much love freedom and want to protect it but now I'm not so sure espescially when I see these kids 20yrs old that have been indoctrinated through no fault of their by the school system,they really do not seem to understand what true freedom is and they have no idea of the elite banking system that controls us all.It makes me think that if those over 35 don't teach these kids some reallities our future will be much darker than it is now.We'll have little brown shirts running around and environmentalism will be the new religion that the global elite have been pushing.We'll all be on our knees praying to mother gaia!!! These communists at these occupy movements have really disturbed me and I to have had this uneasy gut feeling from the begginning.I hope the kids start seeing through the crap their being spoon fed or we are in real trouble in this country.