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Son of Climategate

November 23, 2011, part 1 of 1.
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By Hereward Fenton

After two years, the climategate scandal has erupted once again, with a new tranche of embarrassing emails from the world's top climate researchers now spreading virally across the net. The release of these emails seems timed to overshadow the upcomng Durban conference in the same way the previous release preceded the COP 2009 conference.


Chris Smith speaks with Shadow Climate Change Minister Greg Hunt about the leaked emails casting doubt on the science of climate change.

The climate science establishment  has predictably hit back with a swift and savage rebuttal:

Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Centre at Penn State University and a scientist whose name appears in several of the emails, dismissed the latest email release as “truly pathetic”. He instead said the hackers were “agents doing the dirty bidding of the fossil fuel industry know they can’t contest the fundamental science of human-caused climate change. So they have instead turned to smear, innuendo, criminal hacking of websites, and leaking out-of-context snippets of personal emails in their effort to try to confuse the public about the science and thereby forestall any action to combat this critical threat. Its right out of the tried-and-true playbook of climate change denial.”

In tonight's show Josh Jackson joins us to mull over this news and other matters of public importance.

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climategate 2, as big a yawnfest as climategate 1!

By sleepy on 2011 11 26 - 17:10:57

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/groping-2gb-host-chris-smith-loses-job-family/story-e6frewt0-1225809729558

You’re using right wing media scum from 2GB to perpetuate a non –story!?

Your NOT a scientist, YOU don’t have any scientific training.
YOU can’t comprehend what the scientists are telling YOU and the rest of the world.

Because it goes above your head, it is BEYOND YOUR RANGE OF UNDERSTANDING/COMPREHENSION you label it as some sort of conspiracy to tax people for a one world government.

Get REAL!

I suggest you read the IPCC reports (http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm) before commenting further on this topic; not quoting some drongo has-been shock jocks to prove your deluded point.

What can Michael Mann, director of the Earth System Science Centre do with a pack of morons but rebut the bullshit lies.

By Ali on 2011 11 30 - 12:47:42

So what are your qualifications Ali? On the table, now! And please refrain from kindergarten level name-calling in future, thanks.

By Hereward Fenton on 2011 12 02 - 15:54:51

The best evidence that we are really on to something is when people like Ali represent the opposing viewpoint. All Ali offers is ad hominems, appeals to authority and venomous character smears against his opponents.

For me that is proof that Ali and his embattled crew have lost the argument. Bravo!

By Hereward Fenton on 2011 12 02 - 16:02:46

I have studies physics and chemistry & math’s to university level.
I know the scientific method, it is a method developed over many years by very smart people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method  ).

Scientist of today are “Standing on the shoulders of giants”, as they say.


Everyone’s heard of Einstein’s “*theory* of relativity”, even though it explains the real world to us and has enabled man to develop the atomic bomb and put satellites into space, it does not explain everything. Until someone comes along with a better theory it’s the best explanation we have to represent the real world.

The string theory proponents have failed to demonstrate they can provide a binding universal explanation from the sub atomic level to the macro world of galaxies and the universe,& thus haven’t knocked of Einstein’s theory.

In Science observable measurements are taken, a hypothesis produced, peers scrutinize the data & hypothesis & conclusion. (http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/project_scientific_method.shtml )

With global warming and other science, Scientist all over the world picks apart the evidence published by their peers in their field of research.

Maybe its because they all want some glorious write up in the scientific journals, or for the fun of it, they may want the recognition of being the one who pulled apart some important paper or for some other self serving reason etc .

When the scrutinizing is done and what’s left over is still credible and can be replicated (in modeling or otherwise) it is held to be correct until such time someone can prove it wrong with more evidence.

Remember cold fusion discovery @ room temperature?

“It was the most notorious scientific experiment in recent memory - in 1989, the two men who claimed to have discovered the energy of the future were condemned as imposters and exiled by their peers. Can it possibly make sense to reopen the cold fusion investigation? A surprising number of researchers already have.”

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/6.11/coldfusion.html

When scammers try to pull a fast one to fool the scientific community they will get found out and exposed to be the fraud charlatans they are.

But this is done by **PEER scientist** , not some wally “Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley” or 2GB right wing “pay for comment” shock jocks with an AGENDA, or sell-out paid-up scientist on the fossil fuel payroll.

By ali on 2011 12 02 - 18:03:53

The lying rodent john howard has thrown his support behind pilmers new - “book”

some very learned responses at this link.
http://www.aussmc.org/2011/12/rapid-reaction-ian-plimer-launches-new-book-on-climate-change-–-experts-respond/

it may come to pass that a tax on carbon, is in fact nothing more than a scheme for the rich to get richer, and a lousy way to cobat climate change, but to pretend that means that the climate isnt changing, is laughable in the face of all the evidence.

its as a ridiculous proposition as it is to say that all you need to bring a 47 storey steel framed skyscraper down at freefall ecceleration to collapse into its own footprint is a box of matches.

it might not be impossible that all the worlds experts on climate are in collusion to present a fraud to the world - youd have to ask why though, but i doubt, any amount of cash incentives, or other forms of persuasion, could convince mother nature to lend her hand on the scheme by way of record breaking extreme weather events in everything from droughts, floods, cyclones etc and everything in between.

By sunshine on 2011 12 13 - 11:41:06

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Free speech is one paradox to use Hereward’s word.  Another paradox is freedom of choice. Hereward has touched on something here, I reckon, when it comes to exposing little children with jabs that cause some to have adverse affects incliding some reported siezures.  The idea of ‘freedom of choice’ is treated as an article of faith by some people only when it suits them.  Look at this comment on same-sex ‘marriage’ by Fairfax media columnist Clementine Ford (The Age, Feb 3, 2015). Quote, “The pursuit of marriage equality is vital, not least of which is because every Australian of legal age should have the right to embrace or reject it as they see fit and according to their own system of values.”  So what happens if we replace the idea of ‘same sex marriage’ with “vacination’? An interesting mental excercise. . . . . .

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From the entry 'The free speech paradox'.

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By Travesti on 2015 02 28 - 07:14:18
From the entry 'Bishop and 9/11 Truther Richard Williamson reinstated by Pope'.

fenton works for the jews. thats why he lies. he pretends his unqualified opinion is the ultimate truth.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/chemtrails-the-consequences-of-toxic-metals-and-chemical-aerosols-on-human-health/19047?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=chemtrails-the-consequences-of-toxic-metals-and-chemical-aerosols-on-human-health

By ydt on 2015 02 22 - 12:30:54
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Fenton did you get that messege?

By Lachlan on 2015 02 21 - 12:46:26
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

Fenton, you have to start going to the scource of (ALL) Problems, we have aliens infiltrating every form of hierarchy & Government, in most places that protect their own, Courts, churches, ministers, advisors, bankers, these aliens are called Zionist Jews!

By Lachlan on 2015 02 21 - 12:45:02
From the entry 'Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?'.

That’s an ingellitent answer to a difficult question xxx

By Aril on 2015 02 20 - 08:48:43
From the entry '9/11 Troll Alert'.

Yeah well of course they spy on people using gmail, read the international terrorist laws. The politicians gave themselves exclusive rights to spy on who they like when they like however they like.
They are aiming for an 1984 type deal in my opinion and they will continue to aim for that as longs as we let them, the sad part being that 90% of the people in our country do just let them.
I say good on ya for speaking the truth but the more relevant topic would be the reduction in our rights that abott has made since he sat in the seat. he is going one further than just spying by giving ASIO the right to arrest anyone they want for no apparent reason. that’s new news.
The fact that government agencies pay for our private information has been an issue for a long time.
Since there was an internet to spy with I’d say. The internet just isn’t a private entity regardless of how anyone sells their website.

By dom carr on 2015 02 19 - 23:11:53
From the entry 'Why you should stop using Gmail right now'.

Crypto Currencies will rocket in value as the FIAT system devalues itself.

Only problem is, 50% of cryptos are produced in their first year normally.

This is a pretty big deal in my opinion thus I’m calling for a Bitcoin-do-over.

By Calem Smith on 2015 02 19 - 15:40:07
From the entry 'Why you should stop using Gmail right now'.

the US Federal Govt is broke bankrupt in fact alywas has been. Their banker the Federal Reserve lends them money to go and do what they see fit. When a payment is due by the Federal Gov’t to the Fed they point to you and me .oh and our unborn as well. all to be paid back via the income tax.

By Andres on 2015 02 19 - 15:06:59
From the entry 'Professor Bob Carter on the latest NIPCC report'.

lol - more of fenton telling people what they should do..  i bet he still uses gmail as well..
http://www.truthnews.com.au/news/story/how_facebook_is_exterminating_communities

what a moron

By kyhgkyu on 2015 02 18 - 12:32:45
From the entry 'Why you should stop using Gmail right now'.

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