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Swine flu: a pandemic or just a panic?

April 28, 2009, part 1 of 1.
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30 April 2009
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On tonight's show we take a sober and sceptical look at the swine flu crisis, and provide some unsettling information about the anti-viral drug tamiflu, which has been associated with severe abnormal reactions in children, including panic attacks, delerium and suicide.

We discuss the proposal made by Australian environmental lobby group, "Sustainable Population Australia" that Australia's population be reduced to seven million to tackle climate change.

In the final section we provide a critique of ABC Lateline's recent coverage of a new book which questions orthodox views on global warming by Prof. Ian Plimer.

A recent radio interview with Professor Plimer can be found on this page.

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Hi Hereward,<br><br>I think you are off the mark in a number of regards in what you said about Sandra Kanck’s media release.  Here it is:<br><br>http://www.population.org.au/index.php/media/media-releases/media-releases-2009/333-end-population-growth-to-achieve-climate-targets<br><br>If greenhouse gas emissions are to be cut to levels that the Federal Government has promised under the Kyoto Protocol, that is 60 per cent by 2050, then population numbers must be stabilised and then allowed to fall, according to Sustainable Population Australia Inc (SPA).<br> <br>Speaking on the eve of Earth Day, SPA National President Ms Sandra Kanck says that population growth is responsible for 85 per cent of the growth in greenhouse gas emissions in Australia.<br> <br>“Population now grows in Australia at 1.8 per cent per annum, and emissions at 2.0 per cent,” Ms Kanck says. “Clearly population stabilisation and then reduction has to be part of a suite of measures that will ensure the cuts in emissions that the Government has promised.<br> <br>“Population growth is a major driver of climate change. Forests are cut for farmland to feed an ever-increasing population; there are more cars on the road, more coal-fired electricity generated. It entails more houses and other consumer products. It uses more cement, energy and water which all results in more greenhouse gas emissions.”<br> <br>Ms Kanck says that it is critical that the world keeps CO2(e)emissions below 450 ppm or below 2oC warming.<br> <br>“Once we go above that we will experience positive feedbacks such as release of methane from the tundra and loss of albedo as ice melts in the Arctic. Yet if we continue with business-as-usual, and that includes continued population growth, we will head for the higher end of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s projections of six degrees or more.<br> <br>“That will ensure the end of civilisation as we know it,” she warns.<br> <br>Further information: Sandra Kanck 08 8336 4114 or 0417882143<br><br>(BTW, I am not a member of Sustainable Population Australia. I was from March 2005 until May 2008.)<br><br>However, I think you should allow someone air time on your program in order to correct what I consider to be misunderstandings about people, like myself, who support population stability.

By James Sinnamon on 2009 04 30 - 14:41:28

This is really a marvellous comedy routine, but sometimes the lines fall flat because you actually sound as if you believe what you are saying.<br><br>None the less, a very good effort.<br><br>Your characters made a number of choice assertions when they attempted to refute Kanck’s statement that there is a population problem in Australia.  For instance, one said that we had one of the lowest birth rates in the world.  In fact, as you are really no doubt aware, our population growth rate is the same as the world average - 2.2 and very high for an OECD country.  <br><br>Not entirely original, yet effective, was your reversal of the real coercion and propaganda problem associated with population in Australia and that is that politicians constantly misrepresent the birth rate as less than it is because that is the way that the property development lobby wants it. <br><br>I refer you to another site http://candobetter.org/GrowthLobby which records some over the top stuff on population from the commercial growth lobby.<br><br>I am glad someone has put Sandra Kanck’s actual press release on your site, to correct a ridiculous and misrepresentative article in the Age. <br><br>You could have added some lines about how Mr Murdoch really likes population growth in order to show how your characters’ typical ignorance about population numbers in Australia is informed by the Murdoch and Fairfax press, which own property dot coms and collude with the government to drive population up in this country on the specious grounds that we are not replacing ourselves and that births outnumber deaths.  Really, with your performance on this one, you have actually outdone the Murdoch Press, the Property Council of Australia, the various banks, which are all population boosters and all our fascist governments.<br><br>An incredible performance!

By nerodog on 2009 04 30 - 15:08:52

If Truth News is to live up to the name, it will need to approach all questions every bit as openly and objectively as we would both ask others to approach the issue of the 9/11 attacks.<br><br>That includes the issue of population and the limited resources of planet earth.<br><br>Before I continue, I will point out that at least one prominent member of the 9/11 Truth Movement agrees with me.  Here’s what he wrote to me late last year:<br><br>“I happen to agree with you that homo sapiens sapiens has become, in the words of a headline in the New York Review of Books in the 1970s, ‘Man the Pest.’ It appears that as a species we cannot summon the collective sense to limit our numbers, ... “<br><br><br>Before modern industrial society began in the 18th century, humankind’s numbers were 500 million.  That was very roughly what the earth could support <br>before we began to consume at rapid and ever increasing rates our finite endowment of natural capital, particularly fossil fuels.<br><br>That is almost certainly the reason that human population was able to expand to 6.5 billion, that is, 13 times that figure and there is no reason to assume that once or stocks of fossil fuels and various less common metals are significantly depleted that the earth will be able to continue to sustain more than the 500 million that it could before the industrial age began.<br><br>I am hopeful that with our additional knowledge we may find ways to support significantly more than 500 million, but it’s wishful thinking at the most ridiculous extreme to assume that a world population of 6.5 billion, which could become as high has 9 billion, can be indefinitely supported.<br><br>It is unbelievable folly for humankind not to begin to limit our numbers when we have the technological means to easily do so.<br><br>If we do not, nature will surely do it for us at least every bit as savagely as Hitler and Stalin did to a proportion of the earth’s population last <br>century, but on a far more terrible scale. <br><br>So, again I urge you to give the other side of the debate a fair hearing.<br><br>One very good person to approach would be Mark O’Connor, author of “Overloading Australia”.  He can be reached through http://www.australianpoet.com<br><br>why not interview him? <br><br>Or why not approach Sandra Kanck herself?<br><br>I am fairly sure that either would be willing.  However, I am also prepared to be interviewed.<br><br>Or why not have a debate between Mark and someone else prepared to defend the view that human numbers, either in Australia, or across the whole planet, are not a problem? (To be frank, I think you have Buckley’s chance of finding someone knowledgeable who would be prepared to debate Mark O’Connor or even myself, but, please, at least give it a try.)

By James Sinnamon on 2009 05 03 - 05:43:51

The above arguments remind me of the anthropogenic global warming arguments - they seem to be dogmatic assertions cloaked in pseudo-science. <br><br>I am willing to revise my views based on evidence, but all I am seeing so far is assertions. The burden of proof lies on those who claim we must reduce our population in order to survive.<br><br>I would be happy to debate this on the show.

By Hereward on 2009 05 03 - 06:38:17

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By Truth News Radio Australia Swine flu a pandemic or on 2009 06 01 - 16:19:05

The solution to the problem will always be the problem while we live in a world of culling populations. There has never been, and there never will be a solution while we remain governed by those few who perpetuate the hellish reality we live in. Our reality is dictated by a paradigm of illness rather than health. All populations of this earth have no say about their reality, while evil rulers continue to kill and plunder. All you realists who think that you can find solutions within this madness will never see the obvious truth, for your reliance on the very system that wants you and your children, either ill or dead, will succeed in persuading you do think in exactly those terms. The people that know the truth, but can’t talk it, for they will be classified as terrorists, know full well the functioning of the illegitimate power that continues to withhold all technology and knowledge regarding real answers towards a healthy and non-polluting reality. Anything is possible, but all remains futile while the sheeple blindly follow orders from their greedy, polluting, killing etc. overlords and rulers. TNRA and other alternate broadcasters clearly highlight this fact with logic and succinct reason, but all obviously falls on death (hypnotised) ears.

By playtoh on 2009 06 22 - 21:17:33

Good on u Playtoh, but dont give up, we hav to let the ignorant ZPGers come tha full circle some of us already hav in seeing the enviro crusaders as the genocidalist imitations of hitlerian greencore troops…ie yes, folks, we’ve been down this road before.  The answers, dear luddites, ARE out there, you just aren’t supposed to hear or know about them.<br>When you find out that nuclear science was shut down FOR A REASON, and the whole potential of the isotope economy is SUPPRESSED, along with the knowledge of reprocessing nuclear waste you get a sense of the EVIL that wants you to lose faith in the tremendous POWER and ABILITIES of that species you’re into hating, YOURSELF!!!<br>Give u a tip: we’re far more wonderful, inventive, and problem-solving than the fascists will have you believe, and another one-the fascists ARE behind the green movement-SURPRISE, yes!!??<br>Check out Prince Bernhard and his connections. Long way to go, luddites, but well worth it, try and get a hold of an EIR, just about any one will point the way!<br>Love and good luck on your journey back to humanity!! smile smile smile

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Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them. 

The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.

There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.   

(The ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration)

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/reclaim-australia-rally-set-for-sydney-on-sunday-20150718-gifb9s.html

http://australiafirstparty.net/news/reclaiming-australia-queensland-senate-campaign/

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I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate.  Double standards?  When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on.  I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.

By Citizen Scorn on 2015 07 19 - 07:33:43
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.

Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor.  For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.

Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.

One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.

We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….

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Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years.  But, he makes out like he was born there.  ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses.  I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.

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good to see you putting out some new shows heraward

freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.

i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U

Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too

do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.

feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious

anyway

I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac

good show… keep making them

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Stay tuned for more rules here as usually is the case!!!

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Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.

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