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Chemtrails: a closer look

April 29, 2010, part 1 of 1.
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30 April 2010
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In tonight's show we start with some breaking news in relation to climate change and internet censorship, with the announcement that the government has back-flipped in both of these policy areas. We interpret this as a victory for the grass roots truth and justice movements!

In part 2 we return to a perplexing subject which has generated a great deal of discussion at truthnews.com.au.

What are those white trails in the sky? Is it a government conspiracy? Are they poisoning us? Is it geo-engineering? Is it weather modification? Or is it just harmless water vapour?

John Bursill, aircraft engineer, returns to TNRA to grapple with these questions.

For those who are chemtrail "believers" this show may be a disappointment. Our research has not come up with any tangible evidence that this is anything other than a natural phenomenon caused by factors such as air temperature and humidity. We also note that those who promote the chemtrail theory have been unable to get any experts on side with their ideas, and they also fail to produce evidence (other than photos of contrails) to support their claims. We note that measuring the amount of barium in a water supply tells is nothing about where that barium came from, and the use of such measurements as evidence is scientifically worthless.

If you disagree with our findings please present your evidence in a rational, scientific manner and we will give it our attention!

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Do you think if we hard hard proof they would be still doing this ? When that happens we have it on them. <br>Commercial jets are not used Johnny. Why would they, to much risk. Sounds like John doesn’t like any other opinion or reason, why repeat a show with him again.<br>Guy’s you left out the Haarp machine needing these trails and the Haarp exists.<br>Also my daughter put into ICU for 7 days is not my imagination and they couldn’t explain where the illness came from.

By Damian on 2010 04 30 - 12:56:56

John Bursill *(Sounds)* like he wants to play down the deadly problem of government aerosol poisoning/spraying that has obviously come to Australia. Now i am not saying he is a disinfo agent or anything along conspiracy lines, I am just saying as he sure too a lot of time downplaying science and containually cgoing on and on about how con trails.<br><br>But who am I to know, lets hear it from <br><br>by G. Edward Griffin<br>http://educate-yourself.org/cn/chemtrailsbygedwardgriffin07jul04.shtml<br>July 7, 2004 <br><br>“I cannot claim that any of the Internet sources of information on this topic are totally reliable. However, based on my own observations of these sky trails, it is my opinion that they are not ice crystals from contrails. Contrails can be seen almost every day, and they are characterized by short, narrow plumes that rapidly dissipate about a half-mile behind the planes. I have captured numerous video shots of these little plumes as they follow their planes across the sky. Chemtrails, however, are very different. They billow from horizon to horizon and gradually feather out to fill the entire sky with haze that lingers all day and well into the night where they can be seen still filtering light from the moon. It is amazing to me how so many people fail to discern the obvious difference between these two types of formations.”<br><br>He is just one of hundreds. <br><br>What is going on, Hereward?

By Brisbane Girl on 2010 04 30 - 14:26:42

I have no evidence to quote as yet or researched it much at all however it’d be silly to conclude that the powers that be don’t poison our skies when they do with our food, water and vaccines. Somehow the skies are safe?? C’mon.<br><br>Geo-engineering needs to be seriously looked at.

By Matt Anderson on 2010 04 30 - 17:48:08

Brisbane Girl, what is going on is that G. Edward Griffin is talking nonsense. He is merely describing atmospheric conditions which are conducive to cirrus cloud formation. <br><br>Griffin is speaking from ignorance. His claims about contrails are not based on a clear understanding of atmospheric physics.<br><br>The tendency of the contrail to billow out into a cloud is determined by atmospheric conditions. <br><br>Have you ever seen clouds form? It’s mysterious. They appear out of nothing. In the space of a few hours the sky can go from clear blue to overcast - even WITHOUT planes!!!<br><br>That’s called weather (:

By Hereward on 2010 04 30 - 21:57:32

I’ve just listened to Hererewood, Josh, (with John Bursill)‘s latest show. It really gave me the SHITS. Have I got your attention? Good. It gave me the shits because it only lasted for 1 hour. I was enjoying it so much as I walked for miles on this beautiful autumn day, listening to the informative, inspiring & witty repartee on my much loved iPod.  So when the shos finished I was PISSED OF. Another ANNOYING thing about Herewood’s shows is their infrequency. This causes problems because the shows are addictive.  I have to wait for a whole week untill I can download my next TNRA episode.  So come on boys lift your game! We need a show every night.  All you need is some billionaire who loves your show to set you all up on $100,000 per year to make it happen.  You will compete with *Late Nite Live*!  regards, grumpy old man (aged 65 who now has more hope for the future by becoming aware of young people who are so swithced on!).

By gas4gaza on 2010 05 01 - 12:26:15

I will feel less concerned about unusual contrails after listening to John Bursill talking about the difficulty of installing a delivery system or adding something to the fuel without someone being aware of it. But this episode has only scratched the surface in terms of investigating this “myth”.<br><br>Maybe someone in an area considered to be frequently chemtrailed could have random samples of fuel analyzed. There might be an existing study around about contrail formation that explains what the right atmospheric conditions have to be.<br>Failing that, someone who owns a commercial airliner (John Travolta is all that comes to mind) could run a series of tests including flying at the same time and path as a “chemtrailing” aeroplane and comparing the contrails created with various additives in the fuel.

By Mark on 2010 05 02 - 09:44:03

Hello all,<br><br>Don’t worry I won’t mentioned Chemtrails again…and by the way that’s not a word as yet:)<br><br>Children’s sickness is a big concern and I hope your child feels better now? Best you find out what caused the problem rather than imagining what it was, otherwise you won’t find a solution…<br><br>GEG does go a bit of the rails sometimes I saw him promoting Icke on FB, he (or his staff) took it down after I complained…I was probably not the only one… He is great man but not a scientist to be sure:)<br><br>I don’t think that they would use commercial planes to spray us, that’s what the Chemtrailers say…yes and it is ridiculous..thanks for pointing that out, but please don’t point at a commercial plane and say it’s Contrail is a Chemtrail…thanks!<br><br>Regards John<br><br>PS - Seriously you don’t have to worry about me talking about Chemtrials again:) I’m am keeping my nose out from now on…good luck!

By John Bursill on 2010 05 02 - 10:52:31

I did not hear all of the broadcast regarding chemtrails (or contrails) but I must say that, of the portion I did hear, John Bursill was exhibiting all the bully boy tactics that he abhors receiving from the 9 / 11 official conspiracy theory believers.  This was meant to be a conversation not a one-sided view with no tolerance to an alternate view - with the added outbursts of expletives from John Bursill and deriding of those who may seriously believe the theory of chemtrails as being stupid or idiots.  One would have thought that response would have been his experience as a 9 / 11 truther and he would be sensitive to admonishing believers in the chemtrail theory in the same manner.  <br><br>This was definitely not one of your best conversations - merely for the fact that one of your contributors (John Bursill) lost control and, to my mind, then lost control of his argument.

By Sandra on 2010 05 03 - 10:48:43

Sandra:  I Agree 100%

By Brisbane Girl on 2010 05 03 - 11:32:57

Prince talks about Chemtrails on TV <br>Purple rain, purple rain. lol<br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOGUqXRXPts&feature=related

By Damian on 2010 05 03 - 14:15:00

Just on another topic. <br>Can we get a show on the spraying of our foods -<br>On sixty minutes this year - http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1029050/poisoned<br>Fruit and veges are supposed to be the healthy option. But what if we were to tell you that Australia’s fruit and vegetables are sprayed with chemicals that are considered so dangerous they’re banned around the world?<br><br>Liz Hayes spent a hellish few weeks, witnessing the effects of these poisons in other countries. And it’s a horror show.<br><br>Liz met a young man with no eyes, saw fish with two heads and trekked to a village full of horribly deformed children. And visited a farm on Queensland’s Sunshine Coast where the animals are dying.<br><br>Worst of all, the people who are supposed to be protecting us are pretending it’s not happening.

By Damian on 2010 05 03 - 14:52:04

It brings me much happiness to see so many people who are active and are striving for the truth.<br>Im 22years old from Sydney south west, me and a fair few of my friends have recently opened our eyes, ears, mouths and more importantly our minds to what is really happening in our current society.<br>Sadly chem trails only seem to be part of this endless pit of deciet that saturate our day to day lives.<br>Truly relising the extent of control and manipulation these people have over society (exluding those who know the truth) can easily lead to a sense of hopelessness and even depression.<br>As i said it brings me that little ray of light in a world covered in darkness that im forced to wonder, but im not alone.

By Dee on 2010 05 05 - 12:18:58

Can anyone explain why they leave a checkerboard in the sky sometimes ? And why do they suddenly stop and start again, or just suddenly start ?

By playtoh on 2010 05 05 - 20:46:48

Is there anyway to send up a private airplane or jet into the possible chemtrail and pick up a direct sample with a ground recorded visual confirmation of the plane releasing the chemical & the private plan picking up the sample???

By Brave Legend on 2010 05 06 - 04:38:18

Great broadcast, Re chemtrails Vs contrails, contrails receed or dissappear after a few minuets but chemtrails hang in the air and form quite unnattural ,thin cloud like stuff that hangs in the air,  Who do you trust Man Or God Ide rather see natural clouds in the sky above me than some chemical cocktail of whateva.<br>my sugesstion is to get alex jones to debate the gentleman who is obvioiusley a civilian , and possibly brainwashed,.. to keep his job ?  no offense meant but im against un natural stuff possibly being sprayed on my family and friends.  Thats just my iopinion. and gut feeling

By peter Dunn on 2010 05 07 - 07:50:03

Here is an interesting article -<br>http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellatt/No Apology/

By Damian on 2010 08 16 - 13:12:44

No proof? Are you kidding? Denying this is like denying the earth is a sphere - it just can’t be done. It’s really saddening when a show called ‘Truth News’ isn’t telling the truth in this case. Australia - wake up.

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