I enjoyed the audio, but you blokes sound a bit irrational on some things, eg. thousands of tons of steel being “vaporized” is ridiculous!
it was trucked away and shipped to China.
Also, your denial of global warming makes me wonder who you are working for and trying to protect.

Good show, TNRA. Still think you are wrong in saying that video of WW2 bombers were laying out “contrails” (I mentionned why in the comments section of your article). In short, if the present spraying programme started in the early 90s, I believe it existed before that, including in the first half of last century, albeit at a much smaller scale. Personnaly, chemtrails/HAARP are the one area where I have been able to test out theories (contrary to crumbling towers)... and much what I read or was told turned out to be spot on (though it seemed wild at first).

About chemtrails.
Hereward,look up “geo-engineering”
There are also sites supplying lab results from tested water and soil.
Check also “depopulation”. It’s been active since around 1920’s.

Take care,

Chris

Nice one Chriss of Masters They released the snowy mountains act of 1947 to cloud seed the snowy mountains to make it snow They have been doing it for at least a century. Why make legal Statutory Acts for something that they are not doing…??? Anyone who does not believe in Chem-trails is an ignorant fool…

Nice one Chriss of Masters They released the snowy mountains act of 1947 to cloud seed the snowy mountains to make it snow They have been doing it for at least a century. Why make legal Statutory Acts for something that they are not doing…??? Anyone who does not believe in Chem-trails is an ignorant fool…

I prefer Damon a heap more than Paul with his spiritually dead closed mindedness…blurting out his closed minded crap.
If your mind is closed Paul, then your relationships will suffer and Paul seems to want his suffering to continue by blaming Damon for mentioning something truthful about him. Ha what do you know?
truth seekers?
You can’t handle the truth.

Great interview Hereward.  Enjoyed the relaxed format.

Posted the interview at Truth and Shadows (everyone there thinks Bursill is an agent!) where there is a debate about Dr Judy Woods in response to Craig McKee’s recent article.

http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/the-judy-wood-enigma-a-discussion-of-the-most-controversial-figure-in-911-research/

Hi Gary.  I noted your comment “Also, your denial of global warming makes me wonder who you are working for and trying to protect.” 

Please note Damon and Hereward are both climate change sceptics, however Hereward belongs to the minority of “truthers” who are sceptical of chemtrails.  I disagree with Hereward.

I don’t understand what everyone is going on about. We’re all on the same side here. No-one is an agent. Everyone just has different opinions, personalities, choice of language and ways of perceiving others.

Why are people focusing their energy on trying to discredit one another when that is exactly the opposite of what we are trying to do. We are trying to unite, for it is the only true power we have. And the only way we will overcome darkness. To bring it to the light. Which should be our common goal.  (I would think)

Hereward has created a great platform for us all to listen, learn and research the truth. A great platform for us all to unite and discuss how to act from this knowledge. And it’s being used to argue over small “ego” issues.

Focus on the things we have in common and share new ideas, but respecting those new ideas and theories is key. Not attaching to any of them but go to them when we need them. Non attachment is our biggest challenge, but our biggest friend in all this caos. We only judge new information off the way we have chosen to filter previous information. And while researching we often filter anything that doesn’t suit the result we think we are going to achieve. RESPECT and NON ATTACHMENT is the only way we will get the truth. And hopefully some justice….

Thanks TNRA for another interesting show

The only people in the Australian truthing community who dismiss chemtrails are John Bursill and Hereward Fenton.  I have never met two people who are LESS informed about Chemtrails.

John Bursill believes that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and that anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy theorist.  Well I disagree and so do 99% of the (Real) 9/11 Truth Movement.

Hey Hereward

Thought you might find this interesting: ” I just came across this blog. Hmmmmm. It is clear that some of the wild theories abounding about contrails and “chemtrails” need to be put to bed, if that is possible. With 14,000 hours in the skies over some 40 odd years, and with an Airline Transport Pilot Licence having flown in a number of countries,and having had to pass the Meteorology examinations in a number of countries including Canada, I think I can put forward reasoned explanations. I have made contrails and flown through my colleagues contrails. The first thing we need to understand is that contrails do not expand. The reason being the simple explanation that ambient conditions have to be right for contrails to form and no aircraft engines add anything to the atmosphere as they pass on their way that could possibly cause any change other than a temporary alteration to temperature. The minuscule amount of water expressed from turbine fuel through combustion is not even worth mentioning. The air that passes through a hot engine, piston or turbine, does not delete the water that exists in the surrounding atmosphere, it merely heats it, turns it to steam and it is condensed back to water vapour as soon as it exits the exhaust or jet pipe. As the temperatures at the altitudes where contrails occur are below freezing, we get ice crystals from the condensing water vapour. Hence we get a trail of ice crystals behind the exhausts which may last for a few minutes or longer depending upon the humidity of the air mass being flown through. The only thing that has changed is the temporary increase in temperature and as can be appreciated at freezing temperatures such a rise in temperature is fleeting. If the ambient conditions were such that an increase in humidity occurred we would get cloud as it is the cooling of water that causes cloud/fog. Cloud is only fog at altitude, fog is only cloud near ground level. No amount of flying can generate sufficient humidity to form cloud and that is what the proponents of “lingering” contrails claim happens. Anybody who has performed high altitude aerobatics in a jet fighter can tell you that it is possible to do a loop at 40,000 and fly through your own slipstream at the bottom and find your contrail has disappeared. You can also fly a steep turn horizontally and fly through your own slipstream and find your contrail disappearing a short distance behind your aircraft. It depends upon the ambient conditions at the time. There would be cloud if the conditions were such that “lingering” contrails persisted and you would not see the contrails because they would form part of the cloud you would be flying through. You could also note that sky writers eject chemicals to form their words in the sky and they disappear rapidly with the wind and persist for short periods of time only if there is light or no wind. Please note that contrails only appear over Eastern Australia in winter in the eastern dry season, and over Western Australia in the winter, as temperatures and conditions are not conducive to contrails in other seasons, yet we see chemtrails in summer in the east during the wet season whenever there is a likelihood of rain. How come? the proponents need to explain how we get aircraft flying over Brisbane emitting chemtrails at and below 10,000 feet AMSL.”

Hi Christine, please check out this thread - and please respond to the evidence and arguments provided, thanks.
http://www.truthnews.com.au/web/news/story/contrails_dissipate_quickly_whereas_chemtrails_linger/

Christine pretty much covered it id say, especially as your only “evidence” seems to come from the all trustworthy USA government and a “chemtrail” debunking website.

you want evidence? open your eyes and look up. dont forget to take a few healthy gulps too.

btw.. how long does a post need to ferment in “moderation” before you approve a few lously links?

The only people in the Australian truthing community who dismiss chemtrails are John Bursill and Hereward Fenton. I have never met two people who are LESS informed about Chemtrails.

John Bursill believes that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and that anyone who disagrees is a conspiracy theorist. Well I disagree and so do 99% of the (Real) 9/11 Truth Movement.

does he? really? lolz
if thats true, any credibility i may have given him previously is now zip, nada zilch..

i mean theres incredible, and then theres impossible.

maybe if he can come up with one piece of forensically matched wreckage to the said plane..( wont hold my breath )

or any other credible evidence that can withstand the slightest scrutiny, that shows beyond all reasonable doubt why he might believe such a fantasy, in contradiction to all the evidence that shows otherwise.. i might be open to reconsider my opinion.. 

but seriously?
in this hole?

dont come the raw prawn with me mate.

its worth noting too that the “evidence” hereward refers to in this article..

comes from the same government he says is lying about 911. so sometimes they lie, and sometimes they tell the truth? right? hmmm, sounds like a perfect example of how to construct a psyop 101!

Hi Skywatcher

You might enjoy this website - http://truthandshadows.wordpress.com/

This website is the home of the Real 9/11 Truth Movement.

Plenty of recent articles about John Bursill and his agent/idiot buddies.

Cheers
Naomi

Thanks Naomi,

i think all aspects of 911 truth are worthy of examination and they will stand and fall based on their own merits. i will certainly enjoy seeing what that site has to offer.

for some to simply declare, as if they are some sort of final arbiter of what should or shouldnt be worth considering, that this, or that, to be true or false, based on nothing but baseless opinion, is no better than gwbush pointing in osamas direction and declaring “yeah thats him man, he attacked us because he hates our freedoms, hes an evil-doer” and expecting that to fly..

actually, history shows that it did float for a little while, but one can only huff and puff so much.. and despite the general unwillingness by most to accept governments are capable of such acts, it doesnt take a great effort to understand the evil they are truly capable of - and i believe the majority now understands that controlled opposition, mis information and dis information is all part of the act.

i can not accept that someone who claims to be on the side of truth, would speak out against any scrutiny of any part of 911 that doesnt conform to the allegations, by a properly appointed, unfettered, independent transparent investigation, with subpoena power, to hear and examine ALL evidence under oath and cross examination, by experts.. until a final verdict can be reached, beyond all reasonable doubt.

truth fears no investigation, and i simply believe that if people dont want all the events at the pentagon, or any other aspect of what happened on 911 to be fully scrutinised, they simply fear the truth.

thanks again for your input. appreciated.