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Leon Ashby on the Carbon Tax

March 6, 2011, part 1 of 1.
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07 March 2011
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Leon AshbyLeon Ashby, President of the Australian Climate Sceptics, is playing a pivotal role in the furious debate over the planned introduction of a Carbon Tax by the Gillard Labor government, scheduled to go into effect on 1st July 2012.

Carbon Tax protests have been scheduled across the nation on 23rd March and 2nd April.

Leon returns to TNRA this week to break down the key issues in the political wrangling which is currently taking place in Canberra.

As recent polls have shown, there is now an overwhelming disagreement with the alleged scientific "consensus" that man made climate change is both real and dangerous, despite the claims by the Gillard government that people voted for climate action.

While public opinion has been shifting towards scepticism, big business has championed a new tax, with mainstream media playing a key role in portraying the tax as inevitable and even necessary to keep prices down.

The final slap in the face to ordinary Australians is the proposed inclusion of fuel in the tax - aptly described by the Farmer's Federation as "elitist and immoral".

Key policy points from the Climate Sceptics website:

  • All policy and legislation should emerge from a balanced and objective assessment of available information.
  • The rights of every Australian must be protected.
  • Climate science is far from “settled”, as evidenced by the revelations of recent months and years.
  • The alarmist theories propounded by the IPCC and other political bodies are crippled by huge uncertainties.
  • An objective and quantitative risk–benefit analysis of any proposed “climate” legislation is crucial.

In the second half of the show I'm joined by engineer John Bursill, to discuss the question of credibility within the 9/11 truth movement. John, as a member of the professional group  "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth" has long stressed the importance of maintaining a careful and cautious approach when it comes to alternative theories and research into 9/11.

During our talk we address some theories which have been particularly divisive within the 9/11 truth movement, with the aim of explaining the difference between empirical, peer reviewed science and pure speculation.

Hope you enjoy the show!


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I just can’t see how you can marry intelligent skepticism of the official version of the 911 events with ignorant conspiracy theories about climate change.  Study the science, do the math - climate disruption by human activity is real, and so is the end of cheap fossil fuels - both of which portend disasters far more profound than possible false flag operations of the dimensions of 911.  And check out your so-called climate “skeptics” - they are all doozy UN-led-world-government conspiracy theorists themselves.  TruthNews Australia is making itself just more disinformation to confuse the public and totally lacks credibility on its core issues.  I’m not suggesting this is deliberate (that would be an as yet unfounded conspiracy theory).  It looks more like plain ignorance and the desire to trade on the proliferation of ever more unfounded conspiracy theories, rather than intelligently and critically examine the science and the facts.

By Des Carne on 2011 03 07 - 15:23:17

“climate disruption by human activity is real, and so is the end of cheap fossil fuels - both of which portend disasters far more profound than possible false flag operations of the dimensions of 911”

I would almost agree with this assessment by Des Carne, except that the false flag operation of 9/11 was orchestrated by the very same interests that brought us climate change and the end of cheap fossil fuels.

To the extent that all these calamities are the product of a malignant industrial paradigm of domination and exploitation, there confluence illustrates the magnitude of the threat we face.

By John Scrivener on 2011 03 07 - 22:47:26

With regards to what is really happening in Libya we all know it is false flag to make out all the country is dis-stabilised, we can all see the media playing there tricks to us. CIA is heavily involved here (were is the weapons coming from).
For counties to say Libya needs a no fly zone, Libya must be bombed is total terrorism itself. It is like a group of greenies are taking control of Queensland with arm force and our government wants to stop this, the greenies are getting attention World wide and with the help of the Indonesia with weapons. We are trying to stop them but we have Indonesia and others saying they will take action if we try to stop them. This is what is happening in Libya.
All 9/11 protesters should be in support of Gaddafi after he attacked the UN council recently saying 9/11 was an inside job, that it was caused by the US and was a false flag setup. Another reason why the US, Israel, etc all want to rid the World of this man and including Iran’s president next.
Want to see why they do this check out this movie - Naomi Klein - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism(2009 version)

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By Jimy on 2011 03 16 - 00:00:56

Put it this way. If you could tax the building blocks of life (The sun, Water, Air i.e. Oxygen & Carbon.) You will have a tax on the world in which the amount of money you would receive from the people would be so great you could not comprehend it in your mind.

That alone should shout out something funny is going on behind the scenes. Not to mention all the scientists who are for a carbon tax are sponsored by major oil refineries.

By Hussein on 2011 03 22 - 10:55:27

we are told to be afraid of the sun because it causes skin cancer (in fact it produces vitamin d on your skin).

we are told to be afraid of the air because of global warming/climate change/whatever you like to call it (except carbon is THE building block of life on earth).

we are told we need fluoride in the water or your teeth will fall out (fluoride is a neurotoxin).

we are told we need to solve the worlds food shortages through GM foods (GM causes sterility in labroratory experiments).

we are told to be afraid of the boogieman-terrorist so we can invade foreign nations for their oil.

everything that is happening in the world by this global oligarchy is based on fear.  we are ruled over through fear.  you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

By j on 2011 03 22 - 12:19:02

My argument is with the statement

“As recent polls have shown, there is now an overwhelming disagreement with the alleged scientific “consensus” that man made climate change is both real and dangerous, despite the claims by the Gillard government that people voted for climate action.”

and nothing to do with Libya or conspiracy theories that the UN aims to become some kind of sinister world government.  We already have a sinister enough cabal of rulers who control the global economy, based mainly in America and Europe.

It doesn’t matter how many dodgy polls you have to demonstrate what public opinion might be, neither majority public ignorance nor legislative action by politicians denying the reality and consequences of human forcings on the global climate system changes the laws of physics.  All such polls and such political partisanship prove is that humans are capable of being deceived, en masse sometimes, by the tribal chants of those who wish to manipulate public sentiment to their advantage.

It’s probably quite true that global capitalist cabals will one day substitute the US dollar for a new global currency, once the US economy and penchant for financial warfare have spent the American people into eternal debt and wiped the middle class off the map. Their trick will be to ensure the US military and nuclear machine remains intact, loyal and resourced so as to deter any other race or political bloc from denying them uninhibited ownership, control and consumption of the planet’s resources, especially all remaining recoverable oil.

But that doesn’t make a price on carbon part of a grand conspiracy to take over the world - the world has already been taken over.  National governments exist to regulate, rather than represent, one hopes, the activities of capitalist elites, and in reasonably open democracies, even if they are merely procedural winner-takes-all rather than proportionally representative ones, policies intended to reduce carbon emissions by ALL sectors are to be welcomed, to mitigate climate change before the rate of change is driven off the scale by natural feedback effects. 

Nor does the prospect of even more centralised global economic control invalidate the laws of physics which make climate change very real and no hoax at all, just as it does not make the 97% of qualified and practicing climate scientists who agree that climate change is real and a serious threat to the human species self-interested conspirators or patsies of global elites. 

In fact the extremely few qualified climate scientists who dissent from the consensus view of the vast majority of their peers are precisely those who are willing to to be bought and paid for by big oil and the fossil fuel industries and their propagandists.  Why each one chooses to be a ‘heretic’ within their professional community you have to judge for yourself by looking into their history and character, that is, by thinking for yourself rather than following and chanting the same mantra as the ‘politically correct’ (in it’s Howardian pejorative sense) crowd of conspiracy theorists.  The epiphany that one has been deceived by a great public deception does not ipso facto make everything a false flag incident or another simplistic grand conspiracy by shadowy elites - that’s superstition, aberrant religion.

You have to research and critically (ie, scientifically) evaluate all the claims and all the evidence for each purported conspiracy before you decide yes, the public has been deliberately deceived by a falsely constructed narrative and the real culprits are X, Y and Z.

The pursuit of scientific knowledge is by nature a skeptical exercise, and we know what we do know of how the natural world works by the dedicated intellectual efforts of many thousands of scientific careers over several centuries, and no fundamental paradigm shift will make any practical difference to knowledge of how the world works any more than Einsteinian Relativity denies the practical, real world application of Newtonian Mechanics.

Anyone who has completed high school physics and chemistry should be able to understand the basic physical and chemical principles upon which the climate sciences are built, and the physical dimensions of a planetary system that make accelerated climate change a threat to all species on the planet.  I’m not aware of any schools which teach paleohistory but most boys in our culture go through a childhood interest in dinosaurs encouraged by the toy and children’s book markets, and it’s not a great step, today, to pursue that interest through to high school years to get a critical grasp on paleoclimate history.  It’s well worth any adult, with a scientific curiosity about the world of nature, the effort of reviewing our evolutionary origins and environment, to appreciate just what it is we are doing to our planet and where we are headed. 

I long ago abandoned the charmed circle of the political “left” with its conformity to a totalising political correctness, which is politically neutered by seeing the world from a victims perspective, in which everyone piously believes, without question, that there is one great global conspiracy and everything objectionable is just another manifestation of it.

You will see light when you being to think for yourself, from the root up, what you really believe.

By Des Carne on 2011 03 22 - 13:54:36

Its not a conspiracy for world government funded by carbon taxes. The new head of the EU in 2009, his first speech was admitting that global governance was being formed and that the global carbon tax will be used to fund the Global governance.

By Hussein on 2011 03 22 - 13:58:54

exactly right hussein!!

so if we beat up global warming through al gore, and get everyone into hysterics about the end of earth (THROUGH FEAR), they can implement a new stinking tax.

nothing will change, carbon emmissions will not decline.

the pentagon is the largest purchaser of oil in the world.  do you think they will reduce consumption?  they will probably get exemptions

By j on 2011 03 22 - 14:06:12

I would almost agree with this assessment by Des Carne, except that the false flag operation of 9/11 was orchestrated by the very same interests that brought us climate change and the end of cheap fossil fuels.

By hejingjoy on 2011 06 08 - 16:19:10

Why is this guy wasting his time ranting about what others are doing and stop wasting our time trumpeting about how wonderful scientists and their peer review system is ? Science is just as susceptible to corruption as anyone else. His arrogance is astounding.
Just a little too sure of himself. Now he’s name calling, very scientific. Is that part of his beloved “peer review” system ?

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Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them. 

The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.

There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.   

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I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate.  Double standards?  When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on.  I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.

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Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor.  For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.

Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.

One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.

We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….

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Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake.  He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years.  But, he makes out like he was born there.  ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses.  I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.

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good to see you putting out some new shows heraward

freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.

i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U

Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too

do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.

feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious

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I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac

good show… keep making them

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Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.

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