Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?

Contrails over London in 1944

Vapour trails left by British bombers on route to attack flying-bomb sites encircle the dome of St. Paul's Cathedral. London, 1944.

All those who passionately believe that "contrails dissipate quickly" whereas "chemtrails linger" and are deeply offended by the sceptical position that TNRA takes in regard to these claims, are free to "unlike" Truth News.

If, on the other hand, you would like to engage in rational debate, you're most welcome to do so.

However, please be advised that the information I have to impart may be shocking and difficult to grasp if you have been a "chemtrail alarmist" for a long time.

The often cited claim that "normal contrails dissipate quickly" is total bunkum.

There is not a shred of science to backup that claim. Nothing, nada, zippo!

Those who promote this idea are simply repeating something they read on a web page without checking sources.

CONTRAIL SCIENCE

For a contrail to form, suitable conditions must occur immediately behind a jet engine in the expanding engine exhaust plume. A contrail will form if, as the exhaust gases cool and mix with surrounding air, the humidity becomes high enough (or, equivalently, the air temperature becomes low enough) for liquid water to condense on particles and form liquid droplets. If the local air is cold enough, these newly formed droplets then freeze and form ice particles that make up a contrail.

Because the basic processes are very well understood, contrail formation for a given aircraft flight can be accurately predicted if atmospheric temperature and humidity conditions are known.

After the initial formation of ice, a contrail evolves in one of two ways. If the humidity is low, the contrail will be short-lived. Newly formed ice particles will quickly evaporate. The resulting contrail will extend only a short distance behind the aircraft. If the humidity is high, the contrail will be persistent. Newly formed ice particles will continue to grow in size by taking water from the surrounding atmosphere. The resulting line-shaped contrail extends for large distances behind an aircraft. Persistent contrails can last for hours while growing to several kilometers in width and 200 to 400 meters in height. Contrails spread because of air turbulence created by the passage of aircraft, differences in wind speed along the flight track, and possibly through effects of solar heating.

Thus, the surrounding atmosphere’s conditions determine to a large extent whether or not a contrail will form after an aircraft’s passage, and how it evolves. Other factors that influence contrail formation include engine fuel efficiency, which affects the amount of heat and water emitted in the exhaust plume.
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TNRA is informed by science and is not interested in propping up anyone's belief systems, and we don't apologise for that.

But, please, don't take it from me, speak to any meteorologist or any pilot and they'll tell you straight, that there is HUGE variation in the length and persistence of contrails. Sometimes they don't form at all, other times they form, but disspate quickly, other times they persist and spread out.

That's the facts folks, and it's been that way since planes first went up in the sky.

If you believe otherwise, I'm afraid you've been conned.

Forgive me if I seem rude or impatient on this topic, but every few months I come across a new wave of people who have been subjected to the same false propaganda about chemtrails, and I have to run the same arguments and cite the same articles over and over again. It does wear one's patience down.

Before making some kind of angry reply, I urge you to read this article and associated links. It's fairly detailed, and deals with most of the usual claims made by chemtrail alarmists.

Finally, let me qualify all this by saying that I do not doubt that geo-engineering programs exist, and that, indeed, some of the patented techniques discussed at international forums include the creation of artificial cirrus cloud. Does this, however, entitle you to conclude that every spreading contrail you see is an example of such geo-engineering?

Think about it.

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If there are people here who want to conduct the discussion according to your prescription, let them declare themsleves.

I don’t include Hereward Fenton. I have asked him a question, which he has not answered.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 30 - 18:07:19

Here is a video for Josh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pMpx3wGkf4E

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 31 - 11:07:32

Wayne Hall:

Again so sure that you found a smoking gun (even if it does not even relate to chemtrails)?

I’m not really surprised that you have missed the whole point. The WWF ad campaign used speculative ideas as a provocative teaser, with no intention of promoting them. This is obvious if the second sentence is quoted correctly:

“Was, wenn Sie die Loesung von heute waeren?”

Note the capital “S” in “Sie” which addresses the reader directly. This would be “you” in English, as opposed to “they”. Do you understand the difference? Are you the solution of today?

Annother WWF ad with the intention made clear:

Did you really think the strange towers in the image spewing dubious haze into the sky were a serious promotion of geoengineering ??

By Josh on 2012 10 31 - 16:05:13

The boy who made the video confesses that he did not know how to interpret it. You are right about the “Sie”. I didn’t pick it up and I will have to change the Greek and English translations. Nevertheless the questioning caused embarrassment, and the poster remains usable in the context of trying to change Green Party policies. The poster is still canvassing for acceptance of atmospheric aerosol spraying, something that civil society is NOT going to accept when climate change sceptics do not recognize the reality of anthropogenic climate change and nevertheless for the most part do not oppose proposals such as solar radiation management. Only an Edward Teller can get away with proposing such “solutions” to problems whose reality he does not recognize.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 31 - 16:24:09

This will be all much too complicated for your climate-change-sceptic friend Hereward. As I said: you and he should talk about climate change, not about chemtrails vs contrails.

But if you did that you would be on the other side, wouldn’t you?

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 31 - 17:34:38

Wayne Hall said:

“The poster is still canvassing for acceptance of atmospheric aerosol spraying”

No, it isn’t. Again, look at the suspicious towers.

Read the fine print at the bottom (my translation):
“With technology alone, the problems of our time can’t be resolved. Action is needed. Action in favour of our planet. For the following generations. And for us. Because he who doesn’t live at the cost of tomorrow will live healthier and more content.”

In a nutshell:
If you take action now, questionable measures later may be avoidable.

By Josh on 2012 10 31 - 19:54:50

Is the action that they have in mind the action in which you are engaged, i.e. talking continually about contrails vs chemtrails. Or do they mean something like trying to convert climate change sceptics to the views they believe are appropriate, as you are evidently NOT doing, or not doing successfully, with Hereward Fenton.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 31 - 20:03:03

Wayne Hall,

once more your twisting of words ceases to make any sense.

Still not prepared to discuss the topic of this article? How do you know a chemtrail? What specifically are your “obscenities in the sky”?

By Josh on 2012 10 31 - 21:08:14

OK, if a coherent point is made, just play dumb, or be dumb, and don’t understand it.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 10 31 - 21:46:41

These are videos of German speakers reacting to the WWF bag and poster.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pMpx3wGkf4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnW2l_n0zNA&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwkrPFPUJCA&feature=relmfu

They will obviously not be misinterpreting the “Sie”. But this does not blunt their reaction to what they perceive as the WWF canvassing for unacceptable forms of geoengineering. And the young man in Switzerland who contacted the WWF found them very much on the defensive about it.

In the contacts the Attica Action Group had today with the WWF in Greece we also did not make any reference to the misinterpreted meaning. We simply asked for clarification of how this WWF poster was to be interpreted. The reaction of our first contact person was rather disingenuous, saying that each WWF section was working on different projects, so that the Greek WWF could not have an opinion on what was happening in Switzerland, or vice versa. But when we insisted that we should have a discussion with a responsible WWF spokesperson and that the choice for the WWF was a personal interview with us or demonstrations, we were referred to a person who listened to the specifics of what we wanted, and then asked for it in writing, which he soon afterwards received. So the story hasn’t finished yet. We will see what their next move will be.

Best,

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 01 - 01:49:17

Some contributors of TNRA authority call them fringe but I’m glad groups like the ETC are keeping things honest. http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/09/spice_put_on_ice.html

Wont stop them having a crack at this technology in the US. http://www.infowars.com/gates-funded-experiment-to-spray-atmosphere-with-sulphur-particles/

Notice how many university are spearheading the publicity campaigns.
http://www2.eng.cam.ac.uk/~hemh/climate/Geoengineering_RoySoc.htm

SMOKING GUN! Ha Ha Ha.
http://www.lightwatcher.com/chemtrails/smoking_gun.html

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/canberra-not-quite-over-the-line-in-the-sky-20121030-28grp.html
Don’t worry about the 9.5% increase in traffic and the environmental impacts. It’s so easy to frame the debate. Arguing over vapor trail definitions is now irrelevant because with only a 5% p.a increase in “normal” aircraft traffic over 10 years would result in a 50% increase in airline emissions. Its more likely to hit 10% p.a increases before long. This “FACT” alone is important enough for public scrutiny and some review and regulation of who and what it being pumped into the air. Where is the science that says normal contrails are not something we should be worried about. Can you prove to even the majority of your readers that global aerosol spraying programs don’t exist.

Nasa is not wanting to be left out of the spraying race.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/missions/atrex.html

THE RECENT announcement by New South Wales Government of a continuation of Snowy Hydro’s Cloud Seeding Program has been enthusiastically welcomed by Tourism Snowy Mountains. The current trial program is to be extended beyond 2014 as a permanent operation. Do you know how big the target area is????????
http://www.summitsun.com.au/story/388816/cloud-seeding-to-boost-winter-tourism/

We may never have a smoking gun that satisfies everyone like Josh. Some may never believe anything other than the official 9/11 story either. Luckily there are plenty of people who have all the evidence they need to know it’s time to act over the many “GLOBAL AEROSOL SPRAYING PROGRAMS”. It’s been decided TNRA will not be permitted to do to this issue what “Bursils team propaganda” have done to the truth and CIT over the pentagon issue.

I love the way you threaten to ban others for trolling when they are in fact passionately creating debate. You cant moderate my comments either so just stop trying guys.

Lastly I wonder Hereward have you got frisky with any primates lately or if that is now a thing of the past?

By Vapor Man on 2012 11 01 - 05:51:03

Vapor Man said:

“Where is the science that says normal contrails are not something we should be worried about”

That claim was never made here. Science has no decisive answers about the impact of contrails yet.
However there is no evidence that something is intentionally sprayed from jet planes, which is the common definition of chemtrails. Cloud seeding is entirely different.

“Can you prove to even the majority of your readers that global aerosol spraying programs don’t exist.”

http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/146-proving-non-existence

By Josh on 2012 11 01 - 07:34:20

Josh; Some high school level work about fallacy does nothing to prove or disprove chemtrails exist. Wow. Im glad you get that. Can you prove that chemtrails dont exist? CAN YOU PROVE CLOUD SEEDING, CHEMTRAILS, SRM, ARTIFICIAL PLANKTON CREATION, ATREX TRAILS and SPICE are not all one in the same thing now called GEO-ENGINEERING. I and “MANY OTHERS” don’t care for your common definitions Josh.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/missions/atrex-nightlight.html
http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Survey_finds_public_support_for_geoengineering_research_999.html
I gotta go get some truth laughs listening to Hereward and Joshua Jackson on the not so live, live stream.

By Vapor Man on 2012 11 01 - 08:15:23

Wayne Hall said:

“Who wants to talk about chemtrails?”

Josh: Everybody except you, it seems. And you will not succeed in diverting attention from the topic because you are leaving the basic questions unanswered.

Josh do you have enough proof now that the audience you actually have here is not as you imagine it to be, or claim that you imagine it to be?

Say yes or no, and with reasons.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 01 - 09:43:48

@Josh ; You claim there is no evidence that something is intentionally sprayed from planes, which is the common definition of chemtrails. Please allow me to disagree.

Some 560,000 manipulations of the weather have been conducted since 2002 using aircraft, rockets and projectiles carrying dry ice or silver iodide particles to stimulate rainfall, resulting with release of 489.7 billion tons of rain and saved about $10.4 billion in economic losses the China Meteorological Administration reported.
http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2012/05/26/china-to-increase-weather-manipulation-program/

On August 15, 1952, one of the worst flash floods ever to have occurred in Britain swept through the Devon village of Lynmouth. Thirty five people died as a torrent of 90m tons of water and thousands of tons of rock poured off saturated Exmoor and into the village destroying homes, bridges, shops and hotels. The disaster was officially termed “the hand of God” but new evidence from previously classified government files suggests that a team of international scientists working with the RAF was experimenting with artificial rainmaking in southern Britain. I know you will claim it’s no smoking gun and old and and that’s O.K. because that’s a great reason to show you more and more previously classified examples.

Scientists believe they can weaken the strength of tropical storms and steer them off course using a range of methods that include spraying fine particles into hurricanes or cooling the sea water in areas where they form.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3348628/US-government-aims-to-tame-hurricanes.html

Cant wait to hear how we should get back to discussing and proving beyond reasonable doubt, the difference between so called non existent chemtrails and contrails.

By Perplexed on 2012 11 01 - 11:31:14

I don’t think ironies and “please allow me to disagree” are the right way to approach Josh. The trouble is that ignoring and becoming angry are not the right way either.

In fact there is NO right way to approach him/it. In more primitive communities where relations are not subject to the myriad mediations that exist for us, he would have been dead by now. That is not a threat, just an assessment. Perhaps it would not even be possible for such an attitude to exist.

Whatever approach one takes, it will perpetuate a “discussion” that should have stopped.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 01 - 11:42:59

@ josh

why is it so important to you that people believe there is nothing to be concerned about the obvious spraying that is going on?

thats a hypothetical..

i have absolutely no interest in anything you have to say you gormless lumpen.

By meagain on 2012 11 01 - 15:05:48

Vapor Man said:
“CAN YOU PROVE CLOUD SEEDING, CHEMTRAILS, SRM, ARTIFICIAL PLANKTON CREATION, ATREX TRAILS and SPICE are not all one in the same thing now called GEO-ENGINEERING”

A bit beside the point. Of course you can call some of these Geoengineering.

The question is rather which of the things you list is actually going on, not just discussed. For example, there was a case of ocean fertilization brought up earlier here:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Haida+Gwaii+iron+dumping+topic+nations+negotiate+international/7460364/story.html

Now, what would be the most convincing piece of evidence for ongoing active chemtrail spraying (meaning high-altitude trails that are not just water ice crystals)?

By Josh on 2012 11 01 - 15:44:37

Perplexed said:

“You claim there is no evidence that something is intentionally sprayed from planes”

These are not my exact words. I referred to “jet planes”.

I know that cloud seeding is done (since the 1930ies) and that there are firefighting planes (even with jet engines).

Yet that is not what chemtrail promoters (Michael J. Murphy and others) are calling “chemtrails”. They show ordinary contrails and call them unnatural. They claim that normal contrails dissolve within minutes.

So far, they have provided no evidence for this claim.

By Josh on 2012 11 01 - 15:55:28

Look at things this way. The attitude that Josh takes is in fact - for the powers that be - COMPLICATING the still unsolved task of normalizing what is happening and securing public acceptance for it. The implication all along for Josh is that IF what is happening were really happening, this would be something shocking. Such an attitude towards spraying of aerosols from aircraft is NOT what the other side needs at this point in time. It is because of Josh and the Joshes that the WWF remain defensive when they see negative reactions to their own public relations campaigns in favour of this type of geoengineering.

By Wayne Hall on 2012 11 01 - 16:09:31

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RECLAIM AUSTRALIA IS DOOMED

Although I agree with many of their ideas, the forces reigned against RAM are too great, violent, statist and reactionary for them to remain a non-political, broad based, multi-ethnic, community protest group for much longer. The Left and their Antifa nihilist fellow travelers are already pushing them towards the extreme Right, by calling them racists and Islamophobes and so on. Whilst the extreme Right have aligned themselves with RAM. With fascists of the Left and Right pressuring them they will not be able to remain beyond the Left-Right divide and will inevitably move to the Right - the extreme Right. Which is already happening. A development which will alienate decent Australians of all ethnic backgrounds many of whom currently support them.

The RAM leadership have already established open alliances with the Patriotic Front (the ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration) Australia First and Golden Dawn, a Greek neo-Nazi party. Members of these collectivist groups are currently attending RAM demonstrations all over Australia.

There is a real need in Australia to establish a political movement beyond the Left-Right divide and their vested interests, a movement that questions the current direction Australia is heading i.e. the direction the Left/Right and their extremes would like to take it; that questions the efficacy of state sponsored multiculturalism, as opposed to a proper, non-discriminatory immigration policy; that questions the validity of political correctness; that is politically neutral, anti-war and pro environment; that is opposed to all collectivists ideologies (fascisms of the Left and Right); that would dismantle the power pyramids of corporations and banks and their ability to impact on government; that would dissolve all anti-terror laws and all laws that impose on the rights and freedom of the individual and the people.

(The ape in the photograph is a Patriot Front supporter at a recent Richmond demonstration)

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/reclaim-australia-rally-set-for-sydney-on-sunday-20150718-gifb9s.html

http://australiafirstparty.net/news/reclaiming-australia-queensland-senate-campaign/

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From the entry 'Statism, the greater good and the big lie'.

I second Keith’s assertion that Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He bangs on about Halaal being a scam and money maker for Islam (and no I don’t support Halaal whatsoever), but makes excuses for its counterpart Kosher as being a somehow legitimate. Double standards? When I confronted him about this fact he went off on a convoluted tirade about Israel being some sort of “Bastion of Democracy” in the middle east…Really!, I will leave that one up to the readers to decide on. I found that MH came across as disingenuous to say the least.

By Citizen Scorn on 2015 07 19 - 07:33:43
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.

Without doubt, TNR is one of the best, if not the best alternative news source on the net. Which doesn’t mean Herewood is always right. His job, I believe, is to present the facts as he sees them as an objectively as possible, without fear or favor. For this, he has my respect and support. But I believe he needs to be careful and to think a little deeper about the problems of “racism,” in Australia. He has labelled the Reclaim Australia Movement as racist. I’m wondering if his objectivity is a little weak on this point, a little without foundation.

Of course all political movements have its fringe groups and individuals. We make a distinction between, for example, a Muslim and a fundamentalist Muslim (Islamist), and by so doing we don’t claim that all Muslims are blood thirsty fanatics. If its good for the Muslims, then its good for RAM, which is bound to attract a few lunatics and real racists. But to brand the entire movement as “racist” is wrong; it is the same ploy that is used by the mainstream media and its left-wing, establishment Marxist boot boys.

One of the first things I noticed when i attended a RAM rally recently were the amount of non-white people in attendance, including Aboriginals. In fact the main banner of RAM contains an Australian flag and an Aboriginal flag. Speakers at their rallies have included Jews, Arabs, Indians, Aboriginals, Chinese and so on. What does this tell you? Is this really a fascist-Nazi-racist movement whose stated aim are the eradication and exclusion of other cultures, in place of some sort of Aussie white Reich, or is this just propaganda that is being propagated by the left for their own political interests. Consequently, we all know where the culmination of their politics have led, historically speaking, which are to the imposition of terror and dictatorships.

We can be thankful for small mercies, in terms of the Left, which today mostly tends to attract collectivists, establishmentarians and the privileged sons and daughters of the upper bourgeoisie, who seems to share one thing in common, nativity….

By Eugene on 2015 07 18 - 16:03:54
From the entry 'Dylann Roof: soldier in a new race war or just a pawn in the game?'.

Mike Holt from Restore Australia is very much a fake. He hasn’t even been citizen for but a few years. But, he makes out like he was born there. ALSO - this guy spent 30 years in Thailand working shady businesses. I would wager that his primary purpose in being an activist is that he wants to make money off selling merchandise.

By Keith on 2015 07 17 - 20:51:15
From the entry 'Restore Australia!'.

good to see you putting out some new shows heraward

freely the banana girl is to a certain extent a troll, as is her boyfriend durian rider. they have been trolling the fitness community on youtube for some time… and yes they are extreme but they are also trolls. They use their trolling to spread their message. currently, another dude called vegangains is trolling the fitness community as well.

i am a vegetarian, and it was seeing this documentary on the pork industry that started me on the vegetarian path. for anyone interested, its pretty off the charts disturbing and its australian as well. its pretty much made by dudes breaking into pork farms and filming what they find

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U

Would the world be better if people cared where their food came from? probably, they might then care about other things too

do you become a better person if you dont eat meat? i feel like a better person mainly because animals aren’t being hurt because of me. i dont feel humans have to eat meat really… or at least not much. How can you watch that documentary on pork, know that that is pretty much whats going on and turn a blind eye to it? I think its basic empathy and just saying well ‘i like bacon so yeah’ is in my opinion wrong and i can see freleys point of view to an extent. In my opinion, at least these people believe in something. i see my money as my vote, henceforth im ethical as to what i do with it. free range eggs became mainstream for exactly this reason… although im pretty sure woolies and coles lobbied the state to change the definition of the word ‘free range’ at some point. I dont eat beef because the amount of resources that go into growing a cow are pretty crazy. Think about how much grass that cow needs to eat before it is harvested and how much space it requires. think of how many vegies you could grow in the same space with the same amount of water. lamb? comon, think about what your doing here… but that being said i think most vegans are total loons. People like freeley should be advocating for the destruction of lions and tigers, as lions and tigers murder other animals in truly horrific style. if we humans are smart enough to not harm animals, then we should be stopping the animals that harm other animals from existing. Freeley also kills birds when she flies in aeroplanes so she is a hypocrite.

feminism is one of the biggest problems in society today and although there is some valid historical basis to it, the liberation of the human female from their biology is in my opinion largely a product of the technological advance of humans. sufferagettes where never machine gunned on the streets, unlike the men that where drafted and sent off to war to die just a few years earlier. as technology has advanced, women have advanced as well, however now its going way too far and is pretty blatantly anti male in many respects. i view feminism in its modern context as a tool of the social marxists that really isnt doing society a great deal of good at this time. its screwing up gender dynamics and is wrecking women and men for each other. i see it as low frequency, lowest common denominator idiocy, just like a lot of the the race baiting ‘is this racist’ stuff getting around that is being perpetuated pretty much as a distraction, divide and conquer strategy by the power elite. idiots love this kind of bicker and beef… it would be funny if it wasn’t so serious

anyway

I agree with steven friar. gods a maniac

good show… keep making them

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Really truthfull.

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Yeah sure authority aware.

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Stay tuned for more rules here as usually is the case!!!

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Almost two months since the last broadcast! How the hell can you expect people to donate when you don’t broadcast? Looks like the ship of truth has sprung a leak. This broadcast has been part of my life almost since its inception…it is one of the few alternative news sources that hasn’t gone off the deep end, by dilution credible information with crap e.g. Fairdinkum Radio and Info Wars…Pittard started FR with some incredibly interesting material, but then he flipped…Today he sounds like a fundamentalist preacher, the Christian equivalent to a Fanatical Islamist. As an atheist, I think he’s really ###### up a potentially good show. As for Info Wars, all they would have to do to improve is dump Alex Jones, what a shit-for-brains. I reckon Jones and Pittard are allowed to proliferate, because they’re so stupid and harmless. I suppose they have some entertainment value, and along with David Icke are living examples of how low the alternative media has sunk. Truth News Radio is, or should I say was, way ahead of them all ahead of them all in terms of credibility How sad that its come to this.

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Contrails dissipate quickly whereas chemtrails linger?

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